Indoors-y things - of books and telly and new year type thinky-thoughts

Dec 28, 2015 12:11

Hello! It's the Monday after Christmas, and it's a bank holiday Monday, and after three days of mostly sitting on my couch and reading books, interspersed with watching telly, I think I should probably try and be a bit more active today... *g* So - a post isn't a bad place to start, I think? Hope you all had good days over the break - and still are ( Read more... )

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miwahni December 31 2015, 07:59:13 UTC
Oh the sonic trowel.... and "hello sweetie" said by the doctor... .*sigh* so much to enjoy.

To me, h was OOC in the finale when he pulled the gun on the other time lord and shot him. Doesn't matter if you know how many regenerations someone has left, it's not something you do. And how DID he know that the man would regenerate? He's been off Gallifrey for quite some time, and isn't privy to everything that went on in his absence. I didn't think the doctor would be that unethical.

And then when Clara told him she'd reversed the polarity (!) on the memory thingy, meaning it would affect him not her, and he used it anyway... since when does the doctor risk mucking about with his own brain? Are we supposed to believe that he's so egocentric that he'd rather lose his memories of Clara than have her lose her memories of him?

Although he doesn't lose them, does he, not really. He remembered everything about his time on Gallifrey with her. The only part he couldn't remember was what she looked like.

I know there were other parts in the episode that had me holding my head and groaning but I've managed to delete them.

One other nit-picky thing that bothered me, although this may have been explained in an earlier episode which I've subsequently forgotten. Isn't there an ep where he explains that he named the TARDIS himself? That being the case, why are the other time lords suddenly talking about other TARDISes? Wouldn't they have their own name for the things?

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byslantedlight December 31 2015, 09:40:32 UTC
Oh, gads, you know what I'm doing? Merging the two previous episodes into one! I was thinking of it as the episode with the maze, which I did rather like - but I was also flashing on bits of the actual finale, with Me and Clara and all... *headdesk*

I did think exactly the same thing about the Doctor shooting the timelord, it just made a mockery of every previous Doctor who pointed out that there were other ways than killing people, and that has to include timelords, otherwise they'd all presumably be bobbing about shooting each other at the least thing until they got to their final regeneration... And the whole point of Day of the Doctor, I thought, was that he did stay true to himself and didn't kill people even to end the time war... Yeah, that was one of the things that I deleted, I guess!

As for Clara losing her memories of the Doctor - what about Donna, and all the other companions (I'm sure it's not just her, though I can't think of anyone else specifically) who've had to lose their memories in order for the world to keep going (well, to save Donna's life I suppose that was, but still - I'm sure he's chosen them losing their memories rather than dangerous alternatives in the past!) Again, I blocked that one..!

Not sure about the Tardis-naming thing though, because we've had other Timelords with Tardises for yonks. .. Hmmn, according to Wiki:
In An Unearthly Child (1963), Susan Foreman, the Doctor's granddaughter, claimed to have coined the acronym TARDIS: "I made [it] up from the initials." while the Twelfth Doctor claims in "The Zygon Inversion" (2015) that he came up with it the term from the initials, mentioning an entirely different set of words to Susan as to what "TARDIS" stands for. The word TARDIS is used to describe other Time Lords' travel capsules as well. The Discontinuity Guide, written by Paul Cornell, Keith Topping, and Martin Day, suggests that "[she] was a precocious young Time Lady, and her name for travel capsules caught on." The Virgin New Adventures novel Lungbarrow by Marc Platt records Susan telling the First Doctor that she gave him the idea when he was, implicitly, the "Other".

Oh, and according to the DW Wikia, The Twelfth Doctor once claimed to Petronella Osgood that he made up the term TARDIS from the initials, "Totally and Radically Driving in Space". Osgood also mentioned that she had heard "a couple of different versions" of what TARDIS stood for. (TV: The Zygon Inversion) (Wikia entry here), and it also says "I made up the name TARDIS from the initials - Time And Relative Dimension In Space." (TV: "An Unearthly Child")
Susan claimed to have come up with the acronym while in her first trip inside such a ship, (AUDIO: The Beginning) although another account stated that she only thought of it while on 1963 Earth. (PROSE: Time and Relative). The First Doctor expressed familiarity with the term when Susan first said the word "TARDIS" aloud, which Susan didn't believe. (AUDIO: The Beginning). Although some Time Lords, like Castellan Spandrell (TV: The Deadly Assassin) and Romana I, (TV: The Pirate Planet) utilised the more generic name "TT capsule", others [who?] were perfectly familiar with Susan's supposed acronym. (TV: The Three Doctors, The Name of the Doctor, PROSE: Lungbarrow, AUDIO: Human Resources) Some beings on the fringes of Time Lord society, like the Sisterhood of Karn, also knew the acronym without being prompted by the Doctor or his companions. (TV: The Brain of Morbius)
There, more than you wanted to still-not-know really... *g*

I suppose I could imagine the Doctor using the name in fondness for Susan, and perhaps even going back in time and planting it as a commonly used name so that it eventually was (which might also explain why some timelords used another term for it occasionally - timestream issues... *g*

And that's way too much rambling when I've not had coffee yet! *g*

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miwahni December 31 2015, 13:33:26 UTC
Here's you doing your research before you've had your coffee, now that's dedication. *g* But thank you. I knew it had come up over the course of the show but couldn't have said when. So I guess the name could have caught on, on Gallifrey.

Speaking of Romana 1 and The Pirate Planet - I watched that again just recently, as part of the Key To Time series. Still rather fond of Tom Baker, but oh the sets and special effects are so dated now.

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