GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GAAAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alright.
I was staying out of this. I was not going to get into this. But this has gone too far.
When you try and justify a little boy's death because he lived with his mother, who's a lesbian, his uncle came over to visit, who's gay, and his father left him, because the man is a tramp...that's going too far.
I was fine. I really was. I thought it was fucking ridiculous, but at the same time I don't really give a shit about what you say about me--say you think I'm living my life wrong, that's fine. Whatever. But the woman attacked my friend, she attacked me, she attacked a lot of my friends, she attacked part of my core self, and then she stepped back and watched all hell break loose. She sat there and spewed bible verses at everyone, as if that were justification for her judgmental bigoted state. She watched while everyone descended on the bait she had just thrown out there. And then, just to prove how mature she was, she called out my friend in front of everyone for having an opinion. She said she was angry that he "used my address book to force your views upon others."
....if you send out a mass e-mail that ignites fires and don't expect it to be replied to to EVERYONE, who the fuck do you think you are?! Do you really expect something this volital to not be discussed?
And it's past discussing now. I can't even believe how pissed off about this I'm getting. I don't even think it's the debate--I've heard it all before. But justifying a small child's death because some of the adults in his life are queer....that doesn't....you don't do that. Nothing justifys a child's death. Especially not something like homosexuality. That's fucking ridiculous.
Highlights of what I woke up to this morning?
"In church, i was tought to show love. To be a christian firts hand. By showing love, people will feel love. They will see what is improtant. So as Christians in todays society, are we going to show love by beating down the rights of other. That one mother who cant go into the hospital room to see her child of 3 years because the papers are under her lovers name. That mother cannot go and pray over her childs head. She cannot help the fact that she wants to be there for her daughter, but is made to wait in the waiting room... or go home. Is that what we want the world to stay at? Why choose hate when we all can choose love!
Support love!
In GOD we trust
...not ourselves. "
I fucking love you, A.
""The bible contains much. One is to love thy neighbor as they love thyself. Another speaks condemningly of homosexuality. If you look at those two messages and think that the latter is the more important, then you are disagreeing with the MOST important message. I looked at the web page for the petition and found this
"ENDA is even more threatening to our Christian beliefs because it could require faith-based nonprofit organizations such as Focus Action to hire homosexuals or others who are hostile to our deeply held religious beliefs. "
This webpage has just labeled homosexuals as hostile to the deeply held religious beliefs. The petition is claiming that this legislation is Threatening.
I just visited the Ku Klux Klan website and found this:
"Bringing a message of hope and deliverance to White Christian America! A Message of Love NOT Hate!"
Or how about this one found on Aryan nations, a Neo-Nazi site
"It's not a matter of white supremacy; it's a matter of racial purity. Our motto ... Violence solves everything!"""
.. THE POST -->
Hmmm. hmmm. hmmm.
"Love is not found in the banning of homosexuals. The KKK and the Aryan Nations seem outrageous! They think that the earth should be cleansed to produce an all white Christian population. This racism seems so absurd. We know that blacks, Mexicans, Chinese, you name it deserve the same treatment. Yet, why do homosexuals deserve any lesser treatment? How can you call racism outrageous and then turn around and have homosexual prejudices? Should they be rounded up and thrown in concentration camps?
You may say that God condemns homosexuals in the bible...And I say to you, look at all of the thing's in the bible. There are countless statements that contradict. There may be a handful of verses on sexuality, but thousands more on the importance of love, service, and equality to all."
See. not all of it was bad. this one actually made me laugh a little bit.
"...you need to understand that when Christians take a stand against the homosexual lifestyle it is because we love them and don't want to see anyone go to hell. If we didn't love them as God has commanded us to do with all men, then we would just let them do whatever they wanted not carring about their salvation. But then letting them do whatever they want inflicts their deviant perverse lifestyle into ours and we are initiating our rights to sheild ourselves through working at keeping our rights granted to us through the Bill of Rights when this great nation we are so blessed to live in was founded and based through Christian values. Homosexuals are trying very hard to shove their deviant and perverse lifestyle down our throats in a very hateful manner and yet we Christians are being condemned as unloving when we only want to stay true to our faith in God. You totally misunderstand what love is. Love doesn't want someone they care a bout to go into an ungodly lifestyle and end up in hell for eternity. Yes, I sin. But because I love God and because His Son Jesus is my Savior, God's Holy Spirit lives within me and when I make a wrong choice that is sin according to God's Word, His Holy Spirit convicts my heart and I feel such a sorrowful sence of being wrong and I ask God for help and mercy and forgiveness. I do not tell Him He is wrong and He is just going to have to love me the way I am in that sin and go on doing it and that is what homosexuals say to God by insisting that how they are living their life is not wrong and that there is no way that God is going to send them to hell because it is no different then lieing to a parent, or cheating on a spouse or robbing a bank. What makes this statement of the homosexual community a lie is that they are refusing to accept the responsibilty of their own choice to enter into what God calls a deviant and perverse lifestyle and they are militant in their attitude and they are unrepentent in their spirit. You and I battled over this issue in a private manner two years ago and you know that is why our friendship had to end. I am not giving in to you on this subject because of love not anger or bitterness. Jon, you need to immerse yourself in God's Holy Word and sincerely ask Him to reveal your heart because you are wrong and you are waging a war against God and you are trying to drag others into this lie with you. Scriptures for you to take a good look at are Leviticus 18:22 which says do not live with a man as one lives with a woman. Genesis 19:4- the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah over homosexual perversion. 1st John 3:9 describing how Christians have not condemned, God already did. All of the book of Romans showing that God is the judge. Deut 22: 5 discusses transvestites, Exodus 20:14 homosexuality violates the 7th commandment, 1 Timothy 1:9-10 discusses how the law was made for the rebelious and the lawless; for immoral men and homosexuals, etc.
Jon, God wants us to love others as ourselves, but He does not want us to approve of their lifestyle, unrepentent lifestyle or to get invloved with their lifestyle. Many things are not forbidden in God's Word, but the unrepentent homosexual lifestyle is forbidden by God and will be judged by Him alone. Every passage in the Bible, God's Holy inerrant Word, makes it completely clear that this lifestyle choice is sinful and unacceptable to Him and He is God, completely loving and merciful and forgiving when His Way is acknowledged by us and we repent and turn away from any wrong choice that we make. Christians cannot approve of something evil that God has said He condemns and is forbidden for Christians to pursue. So, as Christians we unite in this truth and we stand on it and we pray for those who are blinded to God's truth. That is LOVE!!! So, yes I will always love you. But because of your wrong choice of how y ou see God's Word I cannot hang with you. This is what I thought you understood from our conversation 2 years ago. Yes I hurt. Loosing what I thought was friendship, hurt big time. God has helped me in many ways to get beyond the pain of going through this struggle. And I pray always for you to truly see His love for you. And I had to do this in a public way because you used my address book to forward your angry and deceitful response. I am upset that you would push your views on my friends, some who are so young. It was wrong. It was the wrong choice. ""
Barghfatzbaleit? I...I mean, I'm sorry, what? You didn't just quote literally pages of the bible at me, did you? I...oh...my...god.
This one though...this was killer:
"""I want to respond to all the emails.
I started writing this long email to everyone and I realized. This is the beginning of what you all will be facing for the rest of your lives, me too. We will be called to speak up in front of people for what we believe in. Welcome to being set apart. I am sad for the things you see now adays, but then I am honestly excited to see how God is speaking into your lives. He loves you guys so much and I know the holy spirit will guide you to answers that you have questions for. Wrestle with Him on these issues.
Since I am writing I feel I do have to say the bible is so clear on it's stance against homosexual lifestyles. Know the truth because I do believe these are the days where the truth will be setting people free. I had the experience of going to to a funeral a week ago of a 13 year old boy who was hit by a car. His mom and dad divorced when he was 3 or 4. He at the end of his life was being raised by two women. His mom chose a homosexual lifestyle. His dad chose a you could call it a sleep around lifestyle. Also this little boy spent a lot of time with his uncle who has a gay partner. Picture this young boy being led by these three "adults." Does that even sound okay?
I want to pray for you guys who ever is reading this... As I look down the list of names I almost hate that you guys have to see this email.
I honestly suggest that you talk with your mom or dad or both about this issue. Especially you younger ones
Lord I pray these kids (some adults) go to you on these issues. I pray that they seek your word and you guide them into all truth. I wonder Lord what your heart is saying about America and it's ways especially regarding homosexuality? What are we truly crying out for Lord? Speak to these kids and make them bold to stand on your word. Keep them in your care and protect them from things you don't want them to get into.
In Jesus name
amen
Love you guys
beka"""
.................*shocked open mouthed silence*
I....
Can't even believe that that just happened. I honestly can't.
Oh. My. God.
Alright. I---I'm so....
GAH.
GAAAAAH.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
maybe i'm not the steriotypical church-going hymn-singing bible-thumping christian that I apparently have to be to be any good at life at all in some peoples eyes, but I am spiritual, I have faith, and you know what? I used to be the preacher's daughter. Back in texas, yes I was believe it or not. I was best friends with the pastor's family and spent all my time at his house, was involved in every church thing you could think of, plus my dad ran a native american church, and plus i was just really really into God.
And then I moved away from my one-mile island and found out that there was a lot more hate in the Christian world than I had experienced in texas, (mainly because no one in the church family knew my life outside of church, but whatever), and while those bigoted people weren't even close to the majoirty, there were enough of them that it made in really not enjoyable to go to church anymore. However, while maybe I don't consider myself a conventional christian, or really very organized-religious at all, I still have belief in a higher power, (call it what you'd like), and I have faith, and there is nothing that justifies a third party coming in and judging, quoting bible verses (or pages as the case may be) at me, and saying that I, or my friends, do not know how to love, are bad people because of what we believe, and are attempting to take rights of "Christians" away by....by what...having opinions? stating them?
Exisiting?
Because that's where this is at.
I am a threat to your good-christian lifestyle because I exist.
I deserve hate.
I deserve to be cut off from a religious setting.
I deserve to be sent to hell because of the "choice" I've "made".
I deserve to die.
I deserve everything you've stated and more.
And what's more than that...
I deserve your judgemental, bigoted, opressive opinions forced on my head...
Because the bible says so?
Or is that just what you're using as justification?
Have your opinions, that's fine with me.
But don't tell me who I can or can't be.
Don't tell me that who I am is justification for a child's death.
Don't tell me that you're right, and I'm wrong, and that's all there is to it.
There's a world out there that you won't ever see, because you won't open your mind enough to experience it.
I feel sorry for you, I feel sorry for the name you're giving yourself, and I feel sorry for the fact that you're personifying a higher power in a way that cuts off at least one in ten people.
Do you know how many people you've just comdemned?
Do you know more than ten people?
Chances are, you know someone gay.
Think about it.
I don't care what you believe--but right now, of the two of us, you're "forcing your lifestyle" upon me much more than I am upon you.
and it's wrong.
it's the wrong choice.
H.