So, so, SO much word re: SPN. I'm so fucking angry about it, and the fact that I feel like a broken record on this score probably says it all. There shouldn't be ANY instances of this shit, let alone multiple ones.
Yes. The fact that this is the second instance of 'funny rape' on the show ("Simon Said") is... horrifying. The fact that so many people watching the show aren't even mentioning it is possibly even more so. I've seen a couple of people mention the situation with Hope, but most reviews haven't even mentioned her character. I can't even express how deeply that bothers me.
And it makes the recent dancing around the 'Are Ruby and Sam sleeping together?' issue even more disgusting. Because now we have show-based evidence that they don't think it counts as rape if the woman doesn't remember afterwards.
Honestly? I look at the number of people in fandom who didn't think it was an issue in Simon Said, and the number of people who clearly didn't even pick up on it this time (I've STILL seen more sympathy for him than anger over Hope), and I just. I feel horrible that people are proving the writers right: people DON'T think rape is rape, they don't notice what happened to Hope, and/or they don't care.
I'm... not sure which of those three options would depress me more. Oh, fuck, they're all pretty damn depressing.
Meanwhile, that poll I linked to yesterday is at 50/50 over whether sleeping with someone who can't possibly consent is rape. Because clearly, that's a real brain teaser. Urgh.
Yeah, I went over there and voted and had to back out quickly when I started looking at the comments. Some weren't bad, but others...
And the idea that the rape factor in Sam/Ruby wouldn't count because Kripke didn't mean it that way just frustrates me so much.
I KNOW. Arkdlfjslk. Plus? That "Dean's a dick!" thing made it pretty clear just how hooked into fandom he is.
Yes. The fact that he must leap on to explain how Dean isn't a dick but doesn't give a damn about the rape issues speaks volumes. Really, really depressing volumes.
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Yes. The fact that this is the second instance of 'funny rape' on the show ("Simon Said") is... horrifying. The fact that so many people watching the show aren't even mentioning it is possibly even more so. I've seen a couple of people mention the situation with Hope, but most reviews haven't even mentioned her character. I can't even express how deeply that bothers me.
And it makes the recent dancing around the 'Are Ruby and Sam sleeping together?' issue even more disgusting. Because now we have show-based evidence that they don't think it counts as rape if the woman doesn't remember afterwards.
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I'm... not sure which of those three options would depress me more. Oh, fuck, they're all pretty damn depressing.
Meanwhile, that poll I linked to yesterday is at 50/50 over whether sleeping with someone who can't possibly consent is rape. Because clearly, that's a real brain teaser. Urgh.
Yeah, I went over there and voted and had to back out quickly when I started looking at the comments. Some weren't bad, but others...
And the idea that the rape factor in Sam/Ruby wouldn't count because Kripke didn't mean it that way just frustrates me so much.
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Yes. The fact that he must leap on to explain how Dean isn't a dick but doesn't give a damn about the rape issues speaks volumes. Really, really depressing volumes.
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