Pardon an Anglophile American from chiming in, but I thought the Crown was pretty well settled from at least Victoria on - her grandon Edward (right?) to his son George to his first son Edward and then to 2nd son Bertie when Edward David decided Wallis was more attractive (god, that man SO had to be gay) to the present Queen, yes? Where is there room in this lineage for another claiment?
(And if he's claiming male descent in lieu of the present Queen, it's my understand that England never had the no-females-allowed rule that France did)
But, again, American, not British, altho I'm fascinated by y'all.
And most excellent points on Aragorn. I never thought about how the elves were the power behind the King there...
The Wallis/Edward forced abdication thing had more to do with their political leanings -facist, supporters of Hitler- than that she was American or divorced. Not that they were keen on that, either, but Wallis was an excellent way of getting rid of a potentially troublesome king.
Not much fun for Bertie, though, since he didn't want to be king, but felt he had to do it.
Re: Aragorn. I was thinking about teh Faramir/Steward/Aragorn factor, and then realised that the only ones who have any 'proof' on Aragorn's bloodline are the elves. Otherwise it's just the word of one scruffy ranger who if you look at it during the early days of LOTR had no interest in being king whatsoever.
This is why I loved Henry Tudor's claim to the throne. Which was, "I've got a bit of royal blood, and I've married this chick who's got a bit of royal blood but, basically, I JUST KICKED YOUR ASSES."
I love that the question of inheritence generally boils down to "Yeah? You and what army?" And if they don't have a damn good answer to that, they're out.
Well, than and, "Wouldn't everybody else be worse?"
'I've managed to garner enough support because you nutters have been killing off everybody for the past few years, I have a clear head and am not obviously a nutter, so get out of the way, throne will be mine!'
'PS: I promise to get the country completely out of debt.'
Word. Though, the guy from australia was actually something that Tony Robinson researched and didn't really believe it much - his daughters certainly didn't. I was watching it on the discovery channel yesterday because it was that or: 'Diana: Death of a Princess' and I'd rather spork my eyes out than watch that.
Mostly when it comes to the royal family I say..zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
You know, our queen is actually related to both William the Conqueror and Harold, through one of Harold's daughters who went off and married a Kiev prince. The bloodline went round and about before coming back into the English line, don't ask me when. So she's sort of doubly-entitled to the throne!
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Pardon an Anglophile American from chiming in, but I thought the Crown was pretty well settled from at least Victoria on - her grandon Edward (right?) to his son George to his first son Edward and then to 2nd son Bertie when Edward David decided Wallis was more attractive (god, that man SO had to be gay) to the present Queen, yes? Where is there room in this lineage for another claiment?
(And if he's claiming male descent in lieu of the present Queen, it's my understand that England never had the no-females-allowed rule that France did)
But, again, American, not British, altho I'm fascinated by y'all.
And most excellent points on Aragorn. I never thought about how the elves were the power behind the King there...
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Not much fun for Bertie, though, since he didn't want to be king, but felt he had to do it.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5222426.stm
Re: Aragorn. I was thinking about teh Faramir/Steward/Aragorn factor, and then realised that the only ones who have any 'proof' on Aragorn's bloodline are the elves. Otherwise it's just the word of one scruffy ranger who if you look at it during the early days of LOTR had no interest in being king whatsoever.
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The Act remains in force and there is no room for any unknown claimant (unless he's got a serious army).
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*happy sigh*
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Well, than and, "Wouldn't everybody else be worse?"
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'I've managed to garner enough support because you nutters have been killing off everybody for the past few years, I have a clear head and am not obviously a nutter, so get out of the way, throne will be mine!'
'PS: I promise to get the country completely out of debt.'
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Mostly when it comes to the royal family I say..zzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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