Sephiroth/Hotaru: Mutual Stupidity

Mar 13, 2008 14:34

Title: Mutual Stupidity
Fandom: Sailor Moon/Final Fantasy VII
Pairing/Character: Sephiroth/Sailor Saturn
Rating: NC17 for smut (with a touch of both angry!sex and romantic fluff)
Summary: Direct sequel to lady_pamina's ficlet, Remember When It Rained. And I mean *direct* sequel, as in, five seconds later. ;-) Sephiroth and Hotaru celebrate their mutually ( Read more... )

sephiroth/hotaru, sailor saturn, smut, otp, sephiroth, fanfiction, het, sailor moon

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lady_pamina March 14 2008, 02:14:24 UTC
*sobs pathetically* That was so beautiful!

Nice instant segway into the smut. Neither are really up for a blow your vocal cords out screaming match so they have to vent through sex. I like how you have them arguing while caught up in their lust and had quips coming in between the moans.

Did you put in that Hotaru hated crying because it made her feel weak for me? It's fine if you didn't because that's they way I see her. The crying worked in that it was release of all the built up emotional tensions. It wasn't crying due to some great inner ANGST. I have such a personal vendetta against angst fics; maybe it's just because I don't like sad things, or rather things that are sad for no real reason other than to be sad--which is what I find in most angst fics.

The moment where Sephiroth tells her he's never had anyone weep for him before was incredibly touching. You captured it perfectly! I found it incredibly powerful statement when Hotaru tells him that it was her choice to make and she wouldn't promise him that she wouldn't do so again. It reflects that inner strength and resolve she has. It was equally as powerful to see the myriad of emotions that go through Sephiroth's eyes and to hear him to say the like.

The last line was absolutely heart-rending.

Overall A++ !!!

I want to go hang my fangirl head in shame. I think my fics pale in comparison to yours. I try though and aspire to achieve your greatness.
I keep thinking I should offer something more constructive than "OMG! I LOVE THIS!" I try to do so by pointing out all the things that I like. There's really nothing I can pick at here except for there was one awkward sentence. But that's being nitpicky.

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usagivindaloo March 14 2008, 03:20:42 UTC
OMG Yaaaay, you liked it! ^_^ As I said though, now I feel kinda bad for critiquing your other fic. ;_;

About Hotaru's lines on crying... it was partly for you, yes, but partly based on my own ideas and how I could see certain elements working. As we both like to point out, Sephiroth is a very proud guy, not prone to emotional excess, and I could imagine Hotaru worrying that he finds crying etc. a bit distasteful, especially since she does it more often than he does. Having said that, I can imagine in time she realizes that he doesn't mind at all (in fact, on some level he might admire her emotional honesty and the fact she's not too proud to cry), and she can just let it out around him. XD But thanks for clarifying the whole "emo angst crying" thing... while I admit I have a soft spot for it myself (and can see Hotaru potentially being at least a LITTLE emo depending on interpretation of canon), I certainly don't mind keeping it out. ^^

I'm glad that moment where they both refuse to promise not to endanger themselves again hit home. I'm sure that there will potential for fallout (depending on how lucky the youma get XD) and I could see them still yelling at each other if it happens again, but the point is that they're touched by the gesture, and love each other all the more for it. And I'm glad you liked the first smut section (I enjoyed having them bitch at each other in the middle of intensely passionate sex XD). Did you like the second smut section too? I tried to make that very gentle and loving in contrast with their first sex scene.

So glad you enjoyed it. ^^

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midnight_fae24 March 15 2008, 03:37:46 UTC
Yayyy again! Like I said it's okay. I do well with constructive criticism; I take it in stride. It builds tough skin, so that when I get my Medieval Theory paper back from my professor and mentor and he's like "LAN WTF?! This Sux! You failed to show how Dante and St. Augustine make sense when put together." I can take it, and then go back to writing good fanfiction. IF there weren't beta readers and editors in the world, there'd be a whole lot of bad writing; goodness knows most of it is found in the fanfiction world.

LOVE, love, love (3 times the charm) second smut scene. I agree it's very much a contrast to the first. I like how they moved slower and were very focused on just touching and being with one another. I have to say I'm soooo jealous of your writing skills. You pack into a couple small paragraphs so much emotion, thought, character expression. I envy your ability to compact things so well. That last sentence sounds highly uneloquent, but you get the idea.

It was lovely to see Sephiroth being so gentle at the end. The last scene was filled with an incredible amount of sweetness. The two of them laying there together, Hotaru listening and falling asleep to his heartbeat, Sephiroth shushing her and telling her to get rest --> ;_; + ^^ + <3.

I see where you were going with Hotaru's crying. I still remain firm in my stance that non-emo Hotaru best, but I understand you got a soft spot for emo-ness. It's okay, I'll still accept and love you along with any fanfiction you write with this OTP.

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midnight_fae24 March 15 2008, 03:53:44 UTC
Oh and I forgot to add how much I love it when they call each other "idiot" and "moron" and they're really saying "I'm stupid in love with you."

Speaking of stupid, when I first saw the title my first thought was that you were referring to the both of us because I wrote in my note for the sparring fic that it was basically gratuitous writing for me and you. I thought you were talking about our silly fangirlishness. ^^

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usagivindaloo March 15 2008, 06:49:29 UTC
Hehe, so glad you take constructive criticism well. I confess I'm not always so great with it, but I always do my best to roll with it and improve... and it's all good if it follows the good old "sandwich" rule they taught me during ESL teacher training (to sandwich criticism with sincere praise... it always seems to work! ^_^)

Yaaay, I'm glad you liked the second smut scene. And you're making me blush... I'm not that good. XD I think your sex scenes are better than mine, more descriptive and all... but the praise is very much appreciated. ^^ And I'm glad you found Sephiroth sweet at the end. ^^

I know where you're coming from on the emo thing... to be honest, since I've started talking with you, I've gotten a little less into the emo (or, at least, I find myself not writing it when I'm writing fic with/for you ^^). Of course, part of the problem is that I'm a crybaby myself so tears come rather naturally to me. I'll have to see how my epic fic develops now that I've had a chance to tackle "non emo" Hotaru. ^^ That is, if I ever get back to writing it... >.>

Yaaay, I'm so glad you liked the idiot/moron thing... I wanted it to be an echo of the end of your fic, only a little gentler and more loving. I wanted it to be a sort of progression... back when it actually happens, when Hotaru screams at Sephiroth and calls him an idiot, she's really honestly angry (and I'm sure Sephiroth was equally angry and ranting about her being a moron when she passed out). At the end of your fic, obviously they'd calmed down and were more touched by each other's sacrifice, but there was still an inkling of... not quite irritation, more exasperation, sort of, "oh, you silly boy/girl, what am I going to do with you?" I wanted their final exchange of "insults" to move even beyond that, into open acceptance and gratitude, even if it's a little foolhardy of both of them.

Hahaha, that's amusing about the title! No, I chose the title because, well, that's what the fic's about! They're both being "stupid in love" with each other, and they're cool with that. ^^ I think if I were titling a fic based on you and me, it'd be "Fangirls Unite!" or "Wonder Twin Psychic Powers Activate!" And I know what you mean about us indulging in writing fics for each other - I haven't worked on any of my epic, "serious" fics in ages - but you know what, we're both having fun, and that's great. ^^

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midnight_fae24 March 15 2008, 10:13:30 UTC
You used the word "inkling" and it's one of my favorites.

I'm such a walking contradiction because half the time I'm a cynical bitch and the other I'm a hopeless romantic. Put that together with being an adamant feminist and guess that's why I'm all like "NO CRYING! PERIOD! SUCK IT UP! END OF STORY!" I actually used to cry a lot when I was younger. However now, I'm permanently stuck with this whole "gotta be strong and not cry" mentality. I still can get pretty weepy at times.

I always hated reading over feminine heroines who always cried. I just got to associate tears with them and being weak. I have a passion for strong female heroes who have the balance between masculinity and femininity. That's why I write Hotaru the way I do. I <3 Sephiroth/Hotaru fanfiction. I don't <3 the idea of going back to classes on Monday.

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usagivindaloo March 16 2008, 19:43:17 UTC
Inkling is such a great word! =D I use it whenever I can. Most people get annoyed at me for being a bit of a walking dictionary at times, but honestly, some words are just too cool not to use on a regular basis. ^^

Yeah, I can certainly see how you wouldn't like the weepiness etc. I think I sort of ended up taking a bit of a different developmental tack and ended up seeing tears as a sign of "strength in weakness," or something like that... i.e. that a person who cries is someone who's strong enough to SHOW their weakness rather than cover it up with a "brave face". Or something like that. >.> Not that there's anything wrong with the latter, of course, but it's something that I decided not to do... I'll cry when I feel like crying, damn it. ;D

I sometimes play off this as a potential character point for Hotaru and her relationship with Sephiroth. For the most part, in canon and before she meets Sephiroth, she doesn't cry much because she wants to be "strong" and show that strength. Being with Sephiroth, however, and coming to rely on his strength to a certain extent, let's her realize that on occasion, it's okay to be weak, it's okay to break down sometimes. Especially when you spend all your energy trying to be strong! That's why I have her sometimes cry when Sephiroth's around... she feels safe enough with him that she can just let all her rigid strength and fortitude crumble for a while and be vulnerable. Of course, the reverse also applies too (Sephiroth probably doesn't "cry" much per se, but he certainly is far more vulnerable with her at times).

Anyway, just my idea of one way their relationship and characters could develop... your mileage may vary, but hey, even if you disagree, I'm sure we still count as psychic fangirls.

(And for the record, while I have Hotaru crying a bit when Sephiroth is near - either due to relationship stuff, or sometimes some non-relationship thing that upsets her and makes her turn to him for comfort - I'm definitely not the type who goes for Hotaru sitting alone in her room, angsting and whimpering and crying and listening to Emo Band Du Jour. Crying and emo is a bit like strong spice... a very little goes a long, LONG way, and too much just ruins the dish. ^^)

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usagivindaloo March 19 2008, 06:12:03 UTC
Well, I finished the fic. I hope you like it... it's a bit of a departure, but I think it works. Let me know your opinion. ^^

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