Hrmmmmm...

[buffo_alto]

Here's me being surprised?

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/parenting/08/07/sexlyrics.teens.ap/index.html

I have long said that shit.

-- W

Comments

[alwaschoen]

It really seems to be a post hoc conclusion. Either the reporter's not reporting well, or the researchers are being sloppy.

[buffo_alto]

I agree that -- scientifically speaking -- this is an absolutely retarded supposition... I doubt if it's even double blind, much less well controled. However, I still believe it's true.

Songs that repeat the lyrics "Smack the pussy up" over and over really don't make one want to read Shakespeare...

I think that rap and hip-hop culture have resulted in a large downward spiral in morality, tolerance, creative thought, cultural appreciation, and too many other things to count. I have no problem with tagging promiscuity onto the tail end of that list.

It's like saying that violent games and TV don't desensitize people towards violence. Which is bullshit.

Regardless of any of my beliefs, however, I will say I don't agree with restricting any of these mediums at all. I just think that people are fucking stupid.

-- W

[leylagencer]

ENTARTETE KUNST!!!!!!!!!!!!! ENTARTETE MUSIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[audnauseam]

Interesting that you point to hip-hop. When Frank Zappa was arguing that kids didn't even understand the lyrics, much less pay attention to them, hip-hop was still a really new art form. But now 15 years have passed and it's the most widespread music out there. Are hip-hop lyrics more prone to influence people because the lyrics are more prominent in hip-hop? Maybe, maybe not. I know I can't understand a goddamned word Busta Rhymes says, any more than I could understand Motley Crue.

When I was in jr high/high school I was totally into Guns N Roses. I knew all their songs, could sing along with the lyrics, etc. But I didn't realize until just the other day that I'd been parroting some really awful, hateful stuff. Consider the song "One in a Million"

Immigrants and faggots
Don't make no sense to me
They come to our country
And think they do as they please
Like start some mini-Iran
Or spread some fucking disease
They talk so many goddammed ways
It's all Greek to meNow, that's really awful, terrible, hateful stuff. I heard it

[buffo_alto]

Good point... But I really do think the GnR song is more the exception and the norm. It didn't created an entire sub-culture dedicated to a promotion of a GnR lifestyle of homophobia and racism... Even in their heyday, I don't think they had the omnipresence that hip-hop and rap do now.

Also, I wonder whether GnR was was parodying? I don't know much about them as a band, I just know their music.

(And, by the way, I was TOTALLY surprised to hear that anyone could understand Busta Rhymes... but apparently most people do?)

[jean_pierre]

If the hypothesis were correct, then I guess the teenies in the 60's were very innocent, since all they sing about was "lollipop".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUlz-fiWxM

hehehe.... (I especially like the part that the lollies got bigger and bigger towards the end of the clip. hahaha....)

[buffo_alto]

Oh, I hardly think that teens of any age are "innocent," simply by nature of hormones. However, there is something to be said in veiling suggestion in euphemism... I mean, teen pregnancy rates were lower in the 60's, STD infection rates, teen/gang violence... Racism was probably more prevalent, but I'd venture to say that was more an aspect of the overarching social milieu than a cultural fad (e.g. remnant from segregation, slavery, etc. as opposed to indicative of a cultural movement).

And I also believe that a LOT of people didn't think of the song "lollipop" as being sexually euphemistic. I didn't really think of it as such until I was 19/20, and then only because somebody pointed it out to me. There is absolutely no denying:

With her crotch on my thigh, rubbin all on her cho-cho

[alwaschoen]

I wouldn't at all disagree that the music we listen to is connected to, and almost certainly even influences, our behavior. But I'm hard-pressed to posit a methodology (how does one even begin to isolate that factor, much less create a double-blind study?) whereby one could test whether music choice is anything approaching a primary influence driving an individual to misbehavior, rather than either one of many, many factors or possibly even only an indicator and peripheral symptom

[buffo_alto]

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