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Aug 28, 2004 23:48

i have maybe the worst job in the world. when all is said and done i mean. the worst. the people are great, and the pay isnt bad...but the job....gag me ( Read more... )

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anonymous August 29 2004, 00:36:31 UTC
hi, i am against gay marriage for reasons more than keeping it "sacred" or whatever, and since i do think that it should be kept sacred i do think that reality shows "married by america, who wants to marry a millionare." and all of the other ones are stupid. and i think the line is crossed even more with hollywood these days where marriage is turning into a joke, its turned into something that famous people do to say that they are serious with their partner, not that they are in love or that they are meant to be together, just something else for them to do. i think that's wrong, but it's their choice, and that's the great thing about God... he gave us choices in our life. We can choose to live how we want, and all of these people... even though i don't agree with their lifestyles, are choosing their own lives. Unfortunately, their choices will come along with consequences... but that's what life is all about.

ps. i think it's wrong for you to label all people who don't agree with gay marriage as "asswads." i dont call people names who do agree with gay marriage, i dont even call people who are homosexual names. that's immature, and honestly offensive to me. just my opinion. its your choice though.

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calebwilson August 29 2004, 02:13:34 UTC
So why are you against gay marriages then? What's wrong with two people who're in love being able to be together in a way that's acceptable to society? Our society already discriminates against gays on a regular basis, why not give them something to show that we aren't all bigots and morons?

Legally you can get screwed pretty royally for being homosexual. Let me tell you a story about some people my mom knew that serves as a just example of what I just said: two gay men had been together for years and years.. long enough so that one of the partners out lived the remainder of his family and had no one left but his life partner. Well, he got in to an accident and was put on life support. He didn't want to be a vegetable, and his partner knew that, but his partner also wanted to give him some time to come around because his doctor said that there was a chance that he'd not only survive, but he'd make a full recovery. But since they had no legal ties, there wasn't anything he could do, and they were eventually forced to pull the plug when he had that chance of survival and recorvery. Is that fair? No. It isn't. Had they been married, there's a chance that that man would have lived.

That aside, the bottom line is this: Gay marriage doesn't have any sort of negative effect on you, so why bother to oppose it? I'm not gay, but if two gay men want to get married, so be it. Let them be happy. Live and let live, it's a simple idea, really. Don't be so judgemental of other people's life styles. There's no decent opposition to this argument, bottom line. The religious aspect of it is obsolete. Remember the whole separation of church and state thing? Yeah. Personal preference shouldn't have anything to do with anyone but the person who holds that preference, so the whole "I think it's wrong" argument is just as null and void as well. If I've missed something, feel free to chime in, Mr. or Mrs. Anonymous

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buddy_ruckus August 29 2004, 22:14:27 UTC
alright. i guess i'm sorry if i really honestly offended you. the thing is that i think it's a little silly for people who really have nothing to do with a situation trying to dictate how people love each other. i'm not politically one way or the other, but did you know that some people want to make an ammendment to outlaw gay marriage? an ammendment. i dont know. i guess that seems like pretty extreme measures to try and get people to follow the same religious standards as a select few. it kinda boils down to this; if you dont like gay marriages, then dont get married to someone of the same sex. besides that, it really has nothing to do with any of us. i agree that god lets us make our own decisions. but if so many people are against gay marriages, we arent letting homosexuals make their own decisions at all. the beautiful part about this country is that we get to make our own decisions so long as they dont negatively effect someone else, and this doesnt.

it just seems so old fashioned and ignorant to be opposed to something like this. (maybe those express my feelings better than asswad) it reminds me alot of the way we used to treat other minorities; denying them the rights that we give anyone else. with most arguments i keep both sides in my head. just to be fair. even if i am passionate one way or the other. but i think this subject is different for me. i just cant see a valid other side to the argument other than trying to make someone see something personal the same way that you do. it just sucks sometimes to have a friend or family member or whatever, that happens to be gay, and know that they are never going to get to be married to someone that they love simply because some people cant understand how two men or two women could love each other the same as a man and a women. just try and put yourself in their shoes is all.

again sorry for offending you or anyone else you were with. i hope this doesnt make me immature.

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PS. you dont need to be anonymous just because we disagree. if this is honestly your opinion, dont be afraid for people to know who you are.

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joecollege August 30 2004, 17:46:39 UTC
being a gay man myself, i have more of a right to talk about this issue than you do, someone who obviosly knows very little about it. let me explain a few things to you; homosexuality IS NOT A CHOICE. just like straight people do not choose to be attracted to the opposite gender, gays do not choose their attraction to the same gender. we may choose to sleep with our own gender, but we cannot help or control the attraction. the same God that made people straight also made some people gay. there are millions of good, law abiding citizens in this country that are denied the right to marry, and it is flat out unfair. the gay rights movement will surley go down as the great civil rights battle of this generation, you will feel pretty stupid in 20 years when gay marraige is as common and accepted as black people going to college is today. gay marriage would in no way infringe on the rights of straight people to get married, it poses no harm to you or any staright people. and for the record, since gay people have had no hand in marraige anyway, that means that you straights are entirley responsible for the chaotic state marriage is in today. the divorce rate has skyrocketed, and television has turned this sacred institution into an entertainment novelty, people like britney spears even get married just for kicks! you are clearly ignorant of homosexuality's truths, and you don't even seem to have real argument against it, you just have a personal feeling on the issue, which dosen't speak highly for your validity or your side's point of view in this debate. asswad.

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buddy_ruckus August 31 2004, 01:37:40 UTC
i love you joe. see you soon man.

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