Oversized chip rule when big blind has the option

Apr 30, 2012 12:58


[Of interest primarily to poker tournament rules aficionados. Everything below in square brackets is my own annotations.]

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adbploink May 1 2012, 13:16:07 UTC
I would agree with you on the angle shoot, but without clarity it will happen and will cause delays and uncertainty. It should be obvious that the better solution is to clarify the rule wording, as you suggested.

I've gone back and forth on the situation with Warren. This was 15 years ago or more, prior to any sort of standardized rules. Today, I make a practice of announcing raise rather than being "cute" and staying silent. I still think it's unclear but if I was the TD I'd rule raise given the fact that once the bet was in front of me it was two chips and was a legal raise amount. I should be clear that I did all of this in one motion (brought a T500 chip out with one hand, dropped it and pulled back a T100 with the same hand). BTW, he called a bet on the flop and folded on the turn. I had KK. :)

Regarding removing chips from the pot, if you dislike the pull-back, don't play poker of any sort in Europe, especially the UK. It is common practice for players to make their own change, especially from other players' bets. I've also seen (many) dealers do this:

Blinds are 200-400. SB puts out 200. BB puts out single 500 chip. The DEALER gives the BB change from the SB BEFORE dealing cards. In some instances they will even bring BOTH blinds into the pot rather than leaving them in front of the players.

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brec May 1 2012, 13:42:13 UTC
As an aside...once the bet was in front of me it was two chips
It's well-established that the Oversized Chip Betting rule applies to the small blind. That is, it's not how many chips end up in front, but how many are placed into the pot by the action. The action of a blind is what is done in turn, not including posting the blind.

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