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TADers Vignette: Aubreyad/TADers

Nov 04, 2008 12:58

So, here we go. I did consider posting it in two parts ('Part the First - When Jack Met Galadriel' and 'Part the Second - When Stephen Met Rhimlath'), but it all fits on LJ as one post, so one post it shall be. :P

TADers Vignette: Aubreyad/TADers Crossover (HUZZAH ( Read more... )

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tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 11:17:31 UTC

Sorry, I only read this now, but with one thing and another and then OBAMA it slipped my mind.

BUT...

Of course there were dark mutterings in some quarters that 'knowing how to slit the throats of sailors and burn ships' did not, in fact, qualify you as a sailor. Just such a remark was once overheard at a dinner party held by one of the lords of the Admiralty who, steeped in wine, his nose a bright fuschia, slurringly declared that, on the contrary, such qualifications were precisely what the British Navy needed!

*cackles madly*

The whores did well out of the men that day.

Ahahahaha, you are the best.

I keep giggling! Oh, this is so wonderful. XD XD

Oh God, this is hilarious. *wheezes*

I may need some time to recover... hoo!

boz4pm November 6 2008, 14:38:37 UTC

*grins* SO glad you enjoyed it and it amused! *dances a Jig of Happy Triumph* Hurrah! As predicted, teh_elb flailed in fury but also rofl-ing at Stephen's angsty masochist tendencies being instantly sussed out (and played upon) by Galadriel. HEE! (I have just started Desolatioin Island - two chapters in - and Teh Bitch as RETURNED! AGAIN! Only to FLEE! AGAIN! And leave him depressed and on the laudanum! AGAIN! *head-desk* Ai, Stephen - will he never learn? He really needs a good woman to look after him and she really ain't it. :\)

LOL @ your icon!

This is tootsiemuppet, btw. mandc_library November 6 2008, 14:44:32 UTC

This was seriously great, I enjoyed it a LOT. The Galadriel bit was fantastic. But oh, Glorfindel's gratuitous nakedness had me howling.

This is why I like these books, you can never tell who's going to get randomly naked next.

Don't talk to me about Diana. GRAH. I always want to bodily drag Stephen away from her. He's a small man, it can't be that hard. Just sling him over my shoulder and walk the other way.

He needs JACK, dammit. (And maybe Killick just to make sure he doesn't choke in his own filth).

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 6 2008, 15:01:30 UTC

Hee! In TADers Glorfindel is forever getting naked. And watching the porn channel. :P

I know, lol! Elb had already told me Stephen is something of the nudist, but Jack seems to strip fairly frequently as well ( ... )

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 15:08:26 UTC

Apparently the thing with Diana is that whenever a man reads the books he falls utterly in love with her, and whenever a woman reads them, they want to go for her throat. Personally there ARE moments when I've liked her (I started off liking her, before she started really messing with Stephen's head and before the OMG DUEL between Jack and Stephen), but mostly I just wish her to the devil. A lot. I can't stand to see Stephen, who by all accounts is so strong and so stoic, who is so good at hiding emotions and so damn considerate it hurts, I can't stand to see him break down, I can't stand to see him up his laudanum dose every time, and the times that he actually cries over her I just lose all reason and get the pitchfork out in a blind rage. NO ONE should be able to do this to my Stephen. ARGH!

Sorry. I just don't like her.

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 6 2008, 15:57:29 UTC

Really?! O_o I'm... astonished. I can't see why any reader would like her, other than the fact that we're told that she's supposedly beautiful but I just can't see past the character of the woman to really take that in, to be honest. I mean the pure SPITEfulness of goading Sophia over Jack, for example and the little bitchy asides she comes out with sometimes as well. re. Mrs Williams I could understand and perhaps even the 'silly' sisters, but not Sophia - and it seems purely because she CAN. She whinges about how dull and awful life is, and it very probably is, stuck with Mother Williams, but that doesn't really excuse becoming a libidinous trollop WITH MORE THAN ONE MAN AT A TIME. It really doesn't. Even if Stephen had never fallen for her (and for the life of me I really, REALLY don't get it - he knows she bad news, knows she's appalling and has known from very early on and yet still he chases her... I can only think he is thinking with his 'other brain' as it were - it's the only thing that can account for it) I would ( ... )

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 16:06:33 UTC

I never stopped loving Sophie very much through all of these books, and I love her all the better for thinking of how strong she really is. She was raised to be somebody's wife, but she ends up having to handle a household with very limited funds, keep everything running even with interference from Mrs W, untangle Jack's financial affairs, provide a future for her children and she's alone almost all of the time. She had to learn to be independent the hard way. I appreciate that in her.

(And the frigid thing has its reasons. Um. How are you with spoilers?)

My book versions don't have these little POB introductions, so tbh, I don't really know his personal opinion of her, but I've never spoken to a male fan before who did not in some degree like and appreciate her.

I think it must be the whole "Haha, I'm free to do whatever I want, which includes tapdancing on your heart in high heels because I like it" thing.

I'd still spit in her face if I ever met her, though. Ptui.

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 6 2008, 16:18:58 UTC

No, no spoilers, but there is a hint in the Mauritius Command that perhaps there's more to it and Elb's hinted as much to me. And I do admire her hugely and love her to bits. I just feel a tad irked on her part with POB, that's all. ;)

Oh, these aren't separate introductions - these are there within the text. When Diana is first mentioned or referred to in both books POB then goes on to explain who she is (presumably for new readers since I can't imagine former readers woudl need a reminder) and both times I was surprised by how positive he seemed about her even when saying that basically she had thrown Stephen over. That's especially the case in HMS Surprise. Dunno if I'd be able to find it now, but I will try and look and then copy it out so you can see what I mean.

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 16:23:12 UTC

Alright then, no spoilers, but all shall be explained.

I'd love that, thanks. :D

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 6 2008, 21:23:46 UTC

Right, I know there was more than one bit (though I think one bit I was thinking of, possibly in HMS Surprise, which is actually a diary entry of Stephen's, though I could be misremembering... Need to re-read! YAY! *giggles*), but this was the main one I was thinking of. It's right at the beginning of HMS Surprise, after Sophia has mentioned the tree in the garden comes from India and then regrets saying it, thus POB has to explain who Diana is to new readers: "...a dashing young woman of surprising charms and undaunted firmness of character ( ... )

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 22:06:53 UTC

That would make me do a double take as well. I don't doubt that there are good things about Diana and that had she been born two hundred years later, she'd be amazing, but I just despise her for how utterly cruel she can be to people around her ( ... )

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 6 2008, 22:15:47 UTC

It is deliberate in Diana and, I agree, that is the point. I think sometimes it's calculated but sometimes it's because she chooses not to restrain herself (if you see what I mean), which is, frankly, just as bad and in some ways worse. If someone's just purely calculating, then that's one thing, but when someone knows they could be better and has their moments when they genuinely seem to be so (and I do think Diana has moments when she is genuinely pleased to see Stephen, considers him a good and true friend and treats him as such - even if it lasts for only an hour or two at a time) then they have NO excuse, frankly ( ... )

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 22:26:33 UTC

It's the cat and mouse thing. Very cruel to watch.

I wonder how much Diana knows of what Stephen is doing to himself. We know most, of course, because we can read his diary entries, we can see him dose himself into oblivion, we can see him cry. Then there's Jack who knows Stephen very well and can read him, but doesn't have access to his most intimate thoughts, but how much does Diana really KNOW? Not little enough to forgive her. But I do wonder whether she knows just how much damage she is doing...

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 6 2008, 22:33:41 UTC

Oh, I don't think she's fully aware of it. Not in the least. As you say not even Jack is wholly aware of it (though Jack is not the most observant of bears in that department, it has to be said), though I think he discovered the true extent of much of it during Stephen's fevered ramblings on the Surprise.

The thing is, I suspect that even if she DID know it would not stop her. She would just pity him or, possibly, think him ridiculous (if she does not already).

...

Grr, how I HATE her. *glares*

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. tootsiemuppet November 6 2008, 22:39:25 UTC

Jack doesn't know, but he has Stephen around him all the time and he knows whe something is wrong even when he doesn't know what is wrong. And he knows more than enough to know that Diana is bad news for Stephen. I think I never loved him more than when he refused to let Diana on his ship when they were in India. He was just trying to protect Stephen. And how he frets every time Stephen goes off to meet her.

Re: This is tootsiemuppet, btw. boz4pm November 7 2008, 10:41:55 UTC

I think I never loved him more than when he refused to let Diana on his ship when they were in India.Oh, I loved that bit! :D And that's also a moment that proves, as I said above, there are times when Diana CAN control herself and do the right thing - when Stephen says 'you should have asked Jack' and she says she didn't think of it. Yeah, part of that was probably selfish on her part (not wanting to look bad and feeling the slight on Jack's part, and perhaps she had already found out Johnson would be on the other ship and was leaning towards him) but I like to think part of it was her trying not to upset Stephen and cause division between him and Jack ( ... )

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