You should definitely cross post at spn heavy meta
I was thinking of it, but wasn't sure if that comm was relevant anymore *remembers its glory in S2 and its many posts*. I suppose it can't hurt, though. :)
I think I have a meta of my own to write ... Dean's experience of purgatory did change something fundamental in his character
That's a meta I'd be interested in reading!
I would argue that SPOILERS are also to blame.
For sure. Were you involved in this fandom during the summer before S3 (sorry I can't remember off hand)? If not or if you don't recall, there was a HUGE fandom freak-out as a result of Ruby and Bela sides being leaked with people rallying against potential love interests and the new girls causing Sam and Dean to be apart more than they were together etc. This stemmed from the sides being a scene of Sam and Ruby and then of Dean and Bela, and at least Sam and Ruby's scene (if not both) was hypersexualized. Anyway, I feel like those spoilers caused a portion of fandom to make up their minds about Ruby and Bela before they even stepped off the page and played into the developing idea at the time that women on SPN shouldn't last long. So, yes, spoilers create buzz and cause people to draw inferences and connect the dots as they see fit if they turn out to be accurate or not, and those preconceived notions can influence the perception of what actually happens.
I believe that it's true that Sam didn't look for Dean -- but I do not believe it's because he stopped caring. I think Dean's loss shattered him
I agree.
Sam's inability/refusal to make any excuses for his inactivity blindsided everyone.
I was surprised by this, but not because it didn't fit with Sam's personality (I feel like he's not one to make excuses really, but to internalize everything and sort of take it on the chin), but bec. SPN has always had a "twist" (except for maybe S7?), a sort of master plan operating in the background, something pulling the strings regardless if we were privy to it or not. There's a twist this season with Naomi, but I was originally expecting it to be with Sam, maybe having to do with the dark figure watching him in 8x01.
I am so grateful for Sam and Dean having friends and contacts and a homebase again.
Garth is growing on me. :) He's certainly enduring and a great change of pace from the usual flavor of alcoholic, mentally unstable hunters. I'm loving the Men of Letters idea so much! Ahhhhh, the potential!!!! And their headquarters is gorgeous to look at. OMG, there could be so many cool things hiding in there!
I was thinking of it, but wasn't sure if that comm was relevant anymore *remembers its glory in S2 and its many posts*. I suppose it can't hurt, though. :)
I think I have a meta of my own to write ... Dean's experience of purgatory did change something fundamental in his character
That's a meta I'd be interested in reading!
I would argue that SPOILERS are also to blame.
For sure. Were you involved in this fandom during the summer before S3 (sorry I can't remember off hand)? If not or if you don't recall, there was a HUGE fandom freak-out as a result of Ruby and Bela sides being leaked with people rallying against potential love interests and the new girls causing Sam and Dean to be apart more than they were together etc. This stemmed from the sides being a scene of Sam and Ruby and then of Dean and Bela, and at least Sam and Ruby's scene (if not both) was hypersexualized. Anyway, I feel like those spoilers caused a portion of fandom to make up their minds about Ruby and Bela before they even stepped off the page and played into the developing idea at the time that women on SPN shouldn't last long. So, yes, spoilers create buzz and cause people to draw inferences and connect the dots as they see fit if they turn out to be accurate or not, and those preconceived notions can influence the perception of what actually happens.
I believe that it's true that Sam didn't look for Dean -- but I do not believe it's because he stopped caring. I think Dean's loss shattered him
I agree.
Sam's inability/refusal to make any excuses for his inactivity blindsided everyone.
I was surprised by this, but not because it didn't fit with Sam's personality (I feel like he's not one to make excuses really, but to internalize everything and sort of take it on the chin), but bec. SPN has always had a "twist" (except for maybe S7?), a sort of master plan operating in the background, something pulling the strings regardless if we were privy to it or not. There's a twist this season with Naomi, but I was originally expecting it to be with Sam, maybe having to do with the dark figure watching him in 8x01.
I am so grateful for Sam and Dean having friends and contacts and a homebase again.
Garth is growing on me. :) He's certainly enduring and a great change of pace from the usual flavor of alcoholic, mentally unstable hunters. I'm loving the Men of Letters idea so much! Ahhhhh, the potential!!!! And their headquarters is gorgeous to look at. OMG, there could be so many cool things hiding in there!
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