Why SPN Needs To Catch A Case of “Glee” (spoilers for SPN 6x08 and Glee 2x06)

Nov 14, 2010 00:00

Bargggh!  Hello, flist!  Breaking radio silence!  :D  I feel like I've been stuck in a well for the last month or two or five, but (I think?) I've escaped for now.  *looks around*  Freedom means fandom dorkery, which means Show, which means mindless nattering, which sometimes means meta.  \o/  So ... after watching this past week’s episode of "Glee ( Read more... )

supernatural meta, 6x08, spn, meta

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galathea_snb November 30 2010, 11:58:49 UTC
to me, this is still Sam
Oh, I agree, this is definitely still Sam. It's his body and his memories, all his intellectual knowledge and his character traits, but the inherent 'Sam-ness' is gone. Dean's frustration is all about the fact that the brother he knows and loves is still as unreachable as he was when Sam was in Lucifer's cage. I understand Dean's frustration, but unless Sam gave aways his soul willingly - and even then I need to know the exact circumstances - I don't think Sam deserves any of Dean's violence. It's not as if Sam could help it or hurts Dean deliberately.

And for the record: My knee-jerk reaction is also 'Oh, no, boys!' - but then I try to get past that and think about it. That helps. :)

It's just that I'm having a hard time seeing why Sam would think that anything in the last couple of weeks could be remotely good.
Oh, but Sam's statment wasn't about the last couple of weeks. It was about memories he has from his souled self. There are all these memories involving Dean and rationally Sam knows that those are happy memories. He knows that he loved his brother, that Dean was his partner, best friend, soulmate, even though he can't feel that anymore. I think for an analytical person like Sam it has to be maddening to have all these memories and being unable to understand them. It's like an itch he cannot scratch and I think he needs some sort of resolution to that problem, on a purely intellectual level.

I'm not seeing/feeling any sort of warmth or connection between Sam and Dean , and, to me, it seems like S6Sam probably wouldn't/couldn't care about an emotional connection.
No, Sam doesn't care at all about an emotional connection with Dean. As he says in 6.09 'I can't care about what I can't care about'. Sam can't care about Dean and Dean only cares about the real Sam, so there can be no connection between robo!Sam and souled!Dean. Dean sticks with robo!Sam because he needs him to restore his brother. And as for Sam: I agree that it is difficult to see why Sam would stick with Dean at all. It's possible that he has an external agenda we simply don't know about yet, but personally, I think it's because of what I said above about Sam's memories of Dean. Plus, given Sam's current inability to sympathise with civilians, I can only imagine that it is easier for him to hunt with Dean at his side. :)

But I've decided that Glee isn't a show that will have consistent characterizations or a riveting narrative.
Hm, maybe. Maybe my expectations were too high. I absolutely adored the first half of S1 and I have no idea what happened after. I tend to think that the producers thought that they will not be picked up for a full season, let alone 3(!), and hence gave it all in those first episodes, planned it out in one satisfying arc and then didn't know what to do when they got picked up. I watch my fair share of fluffy, happy, sweet shows, but I couldn't get past my disappointment with Glee. *shrugs*

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