Tension, Conflict, Motivation, and Plot: Why the Story is About Dean and We Do Know Sam
I wrote a meta thingy! :)
There’s been avid discussion about Sam and Dean and which of them, if either, seems to be favored by Kripke as well as debate about “who is the story really about”. I’ve noticed there’s been a propensity for some self-proclaimed “Dean girls” and “Sam girls” to run circles around each other, trying to prove their points. ( Read more... )
There’s been avid discussion about Sam and Dean and which of them, if either, seems to be favored by Kripke as well as debate about “who is the story really about”. I’ve noticed there’s been a propensity for some self-proclaimed “Dean girls” and “Sam girls” to run circles around each other, trying to prove their points. ( Read more... )
I will miss Henrickson a LOT, but I understand that the reason he got off'd was really out of Kripke's control (Gordon too). Weirdly enough, the one person I really want to see back is the lawyer from Folsom Prison Blues. Even though I don't know anything she could do.
I'll agree with you about Supernatural being gutsy enough to leave a body count, and it is indeed realistic, but too much and the boys have no one to fall back on except themselves. In a way that's good, in another way, it's just such humongous odds...
I guess my one complaint is that as far as death of the main characters go, some of the punch is taken away. (Is that a good way to phrase it? I'm not sure...) John's death in IMToD was very meaningful and very real and left a lot of issues, but we were given closure in AHBLII and John ended up getting a 'happy-ish' ending. Sam's death also has ramifications, but the death itself lasted only a little while and I don't know yet what the full consequences will be. And if Dean does die and go to hell, the question won't be if he's coming back, but how and with how much damage.
So you're saying Sam needs to murder someone at the end of each season to save the world. ;)
No! Well, actually, now that you mention it, yes. Only that does make it suddenly very murky, doesn't it. I'm all twisted up and trying to re-think it now. ;)
I don't know, but it should involve wearing black leather. *wags eyebrows*
I'll trade the black leather for a convertible for him to sprawl out in and since Sam is full of demon blood and therefore connected to hell he gets hot easily andmust wear less clothing. *firm nod*
In fact, I want the psychics to be the unseen, hiding "forces of good" and Azazel was going around trying to use them for his own purposes by making them a human/demon blood cocktail
I'd totally love this, especially because I really do want to believe that there is some force of good out there besides a group of ragged, quite often revenge-driven hunters. And taking one of the 'good' ones is certainly one of the most evil acts the YED could commit. Here's hoping your theory is right!!
I wish you guys luck on your project, all of you are certainly better at picking things out than I am. Including symbols & such. I had to cackle with glee when sadelyrate mentioned the symbol of Astaroth in 3.09 because that's originally who Tammi was - at least as long as I'm remembering the sides right.
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Oh, Mara! I liked the fact she jabbed Henriksen (however you spell it ... you know, I write that every time, from now on it's going to be "Henricksonhoweveryouspellit") good and hard. I also liked the detective in "The Usual Suspects". It would be great if they joined forces and cleaned up the boys' criminal records so they could rejoin society at some point (I doubt that would happen, but maybe in ficland).
some of the punch is taken away
Yeah, I see your point. For sure, you start pulling your punches (killing your main characters and then repeatedly resurrecting them) and after a while nobody flinches when you make a fist. But (heh), on the other hand, it's when everyone's habituated to the "fake out" that a real punch knocks everyone flat. Not that I think Dean won't be back for S4 or anything. *knocks on wood*
But I think the big thing no matter who dies or doesn't is to is no to jerk the audience around too much. Once the writer's lose their credibility it's almost impossible to get it back. I think Kripke is hyper aware of this, which is one of the reasons why he surfs the boards and seems interested in fan reactions. Yay for conscientious producer-writer-creator-evil masterminds. :)
a convertible for him to sprawl out in
LOL! That poor boy, he could barely fit into that little car. His knees must have bruises from the dash board. I don't know how he fits into most things ... airplanes especially. My husband is 6'4" and gets leg cramps if he can't sit in an exit aisle.
since Sam is full of demon blood and therefore connected to hell he gets hot easily andmust wear less clothing.
Sweat. There's probably some sweating involved somewhere, too. How about black leather pants and a sweaty ... tank top. Yeah. A white or gray tank top. And maybe to cool off he leans up against a metal fence. Wow. Now if I only had a picture of that...
Here's hoping your theory is right!!
Forces of good (FoG) FTW! *waves FoG flag*
I wish you guys luck on your project
Thank you! :)
because that's originally who Tammi was
Yet another demon with a real demon name! This just really makes me wonder why some demons have demon names and others like Ruby and Lilith have human sounding names. Show, you confuse me! And consequently sometimes I confuse myself as to why I'm thinking about demonology, Hell's hierarchy, and demon names in the first place XD!
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