Tension, Conflict, Motivation, and Plot: Why the Story is About Dean and We Do Know Sam

Apr 18, 2008 18:43

I wrote a meta thingy! :)

There’s been avid discussion about Sam and Dean and which of them, if either, seems to be favored by Kripke as well as debate about “who is the story really about”. I’ve noticed there’s been a propensity for some self-proclaimed “Dean girls” and “Sam girls” to run circles around each other, trying to prove their points. ( Read more... )

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Re: I actually thought Dean's flippancy made sense in a weird way bowtrunckle April 22 2008, 17:17:34 UTC
Sam has no memory of where he was (neither did Dean IMToD either for that matter)

This is where fanfic is a wonderful thing. :) I don't think we'll ever know the answer to this question as The Show likes to maintain a nebulous relationship with the "good" spiritual plane, or perhaps it's just me not wanting The Show to reveal all it's cards (I loved the ending of "Roadkill").

Italo Calvino wrote an essay about writing with a light touch. He used the Greek myth of Perseus and Medusa to illustrate if one tries to write directly about "heavy" events (mostly, I think, he was talking about war, being that he was a war vetern, but I also apply this to heavy themes even though I can't remember if he did so or not ... heh, I mangle brilliant ideas!) or events that are too current (i.e. no perspective), there's the risk it'll drag down your work, essentially "freezing" it. He maintains you need to touch on it lightly, quickly, then pull away as to not let the "weight of the world" overwhelm the story.

So I guess this is how I hope The Show will treat heaven or the light or whatever lies beyond because I think if they try to overly define it, the magic will be lost. The mystery is part of the draw for me. That being said, I wouldn't be adverse to getting an incarnation/symbolic "side of good" one of these days, although no angels with white feathers please.

Unless of course that part of Sammy that YED implied was different couldn't be drawn down from that higher plane.....

As much as I love angst/drama, I like to think Sam's spirit moved onto better things because satisfying "endings" are important to me. However, just to go with the flow here, you bring up an interesting idea, one I think is tied to an important theme in The Show: redemption and the personal choice/atoning actions overriding destiny. I get inklings that The Show might go deeper into this idea. This was an under current for the entire S2, but it seems to have gone underground along with emo Sam this season. I guess we'll have to see what happens!

maybe Sam is the demon that holds the contract on Dean's soul?

That's something hugemind and I have been throwing back and forth at each other since "Bedtime Stories". It's definitely a "he" as stated by the RED, so unless the demon possessing Lilith is bisexual, then it can't be the Lilith demon (and I'm still unsure if Lilith is the name of the girl she's occupying or if that's the demon's name). I actually love the idea because it funnels Sam's "destiny" though choice, the fact he'd choose to embrace his demon side to save Dean. Also, how ironic! :D

I'm still not convinced that all demons will choose "evil" nor that Sam's demon "destiny" is bad/dark. I'm rooting for a demon (Lilith) vs. demon (Sam) war with humans and Dean caught in the middle for S4.

Speculating is fun. That's what fandom is for!

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