Upending the Hunter’s Ethos: Reversed and Upside Down Shots in “Sin City” (3x04)

Nov 24, 2007 21:26


A little post-turkey meta.

This is late. Sorry. Meta hasn’t been coming so easily lately, which is strange because I thought writer’s block was reserved for fiction. *doublepalmface* But because we don’t have an episode prompt entry for 3x04, I thought I should do one, and this was such a mytharc-juicy episode that it deserves to be talked about ( Read more... )

supernatural meta, 3x04

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Mini-meta, it seems kentawolf November 28 2007, 00:17:45 UTC
You're right, it would be more chilling if Sam got a little dark and it was just him making the decision to do so. But, to be honest, I would prefer that to happen. It seems to me that free will and personal choice are such important themes in this show (and in much contemporary fiction writing/story telling in general) that it would be terribly unsatisfying if Sam just went dark because of external factors out of his control. I think doing that for an episode (his possession in BUaBS) is fine, but for a good portion of the mytharc? :(

I've been pushing this on forums, because I, too, felt that it would be (1) cheap way to make Sam evil,(2) not fair to Sam's character development, and (3) an very unwelcome "tricked ya!" to fandom when the "real" Sam came back. So, yes, it would be terribly unsatisfying to have Sam turn evil JUST FOR external factors.

I think they could be used to his advantage (*coughCroatoancough* ... I don't think that's the last time we're going to hear about that demonic virus), a way to level the playing field and fight fire with fire so to speak, IF Sam so chooses.

Perhaps his role as demon!leader is something Sam would twist to Good. I had that idea on a brainvomit at a forum once: Sam would seem to go evil, but it's him tricking his demon legion to do Good. But it be so much interesting, like you suggest later in the "Buckets-o-crazy" section, that Sam would head a demon legion in order to fight another faction of demons. (Perhaps those who killed Mary's friends?) It's true, as you point out, that we're seeing that demons are not All Evil:

1. Demon!Meg expresses love and loyalty in "Shadow."
2. Demon!Casey shows love and loyalty in "Sin City."
...aaaand for a stretch:
3. Azazel sure does have some weird twisted pride in "his kids." Sure, it's deadly and self-serving, etc., but it was rather paternal. *gives self weird look*

And I have a feeling, just as in your "lists of personal canon," that Ruby may not be All Evil. Perhaps she is the fourth piece of this puzzle. Perhaps she is the demon to finally show that yes, there are factions (she even reveals this in "The Kids Are Alright") and yes, demons are Just Fallen Angels.

Are demons DESTINED to be evil? If so, there is no hope for Sam. Destiny becomes stronger than free will in the Supernatural 'Verse, and the outcome is written.

So it is about demons in Season Three (*points to title card*). It is through demons that we will understand Sam and his place and fate in the world.

*waaaay too emo*

So, no, you didn't scare me with your buckets-o-crazy. *grin*

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Re: Mini-meta, it seems bowtrunckle November 28 2007, 21:45:02 UTC
Just out of curiosity, what forums do you frequent?

Sam would seem to go evil, but it's him tricking his demon legion to do Good.

Have you read this fic? *grins*

http://pheebs1.livejournal.com/129047.html

You're right about Azazel having a paternal "twisted pride" in his crazy kids. He also seemed a little perturbed at John in "IMToD" that Dean took out his two kids (namelessbrother!demon and Meg!demon), which could be interpreted as he might've cared about them a tiny bit or he was just peeved because some of his underlings were indisposed. Which makes me wonder how the heck demons have/create kids.

I would love it if Ruby wasn't all bad. In fact, I would love it if she's human *somewhere* in there (even if she was an "evil" human). Humanity in a demon would freak Sam out (I love Sam angst) and just make the whole two sides of the human/demon coin just that much more awesome. But I get carried away with my wishful thinking sometimes...

Are demons DESTINED to be evil?

I hope not. :(

So it is about demons in Season Three (*points to title card*). It is through demons that we will understand Sam and his place and fate in the world.

So it is! Let's hope we get a second half of S3 to see how all of this plays out. *crosses fingers and toes*

So, no, you didn't scare me with your buckets-o-crazy. *grin*

*grins back* Mini-meta is fun.

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