'...don't make me be who I was, just let me be who I am...'
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( 'I am not in your hands, Lord Roxton, and any time you wish to throw me to the wolves, I suggest you try. You might be surprised which one of us gets eaten...'/'Yes, well, I always say anything that isn't worth shedding a little blood over isn't worth the getting...' )
format snurched from littlred.
( 'I am not in your hands, Lord Roxton, and any time you wish to throw me to the wolves, I suggest you try. You might be surprised which one of us gets eaten...'/'Yes, well, I always say anything that isn't worth shedding a little blood over isn't worth the getting...' )
But I think my pet peeve is that Marguerite gave in to the illusion, I was hoping she'd resist- I mean, okay, I KNOW if I were her, under the effects of a hallucinogenic fungus, I'd buy it too, but like...it's just so painful seeing her believe this woman is her mother and wanting to think she was loved and cherished and then BLAM, she's told she's evil and should die. *wibbles* Frakking with her head and toying with her emotions like that is not cool.
Lol, your Summerlee love is showing! But yah, I'm rewatching these in mini-marathons with my cousin and it's just increasing my appreciation for him because like, he saves Marguerite and Roxton one ep, then puts his life on the line two eps in a row for Marguerite and then for Malone... *squishes him*
Favorite scene for me, when they’re in Roxton’s room arguing and Summerlee interrupts them and actually tells them they sound like a married couple. Summerlee again FTW!
*dies laughing* He's so cool, it's hilarious, like, 'Oh, I do hope I'm not interrupting' when he's just so transparently doing exactly that, and then the sly crack at them...*g*
I don’t think she was killing Kieran for only herself. See…she did it to save everyone else’s asses.
Oh, no, of course- I was meaning to put a cap there, which is why I did the a)/b) separation, but then I didn't get around to it. I didn't mean to imply that her killing him wasn't related to saving the others.
* And hey, they toast her and everything at the end of the ep! She gets recognition for once! *cheers*
Marguerite FTFW!!!
IKR?! I'm so caught up in resenting them for not respecting and admiring her more often that I totally forgot about the toast until I rewatched this ep! And was overwhelmed with glee! Marguerite FTMFW! *twirls*
IT did happen…the druid’s made it feel like a dream and that’s what they talk about in Trapped Roxton even seems to think it was a dream in Trapped.
I was confused because when I first watched it, I assumed they all forgot- hence it 'never happened' for the characters. But then it was brought up in s3, so...Idk.
I don’t think they really forget, more like agree to pretend it didn’t happen to keep the freaks underground dwellers safe from the rest of the world where they’d surely be exploited.
OHHHH. Thankies! I was wondering why the hell they'd go along with it, but I can see that. Although I'm surprised at Marguerite giving up a fortune in gold so easily. :P
Have to agree with you on the Ape A storyline, but I actually really enjoyed the B storyline.
If the B storyline were in any other ep, I wouldn't mind it, in fact, I'd probably like it a whole lot more- but the combination of crappy A + okayish B just resulted in the whole thing stinking for me.
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Cave of Fear is my all time fav let's learn more about Marguerite, eps. As to why she went where she did in the cave, I honestly believe because she KNOWS she was abandoned as a wee thing, she thinks it's her fault. That some how she is evil. She doesn't understand how or why she can read and speak any language with ease and it scares her. She's had no one in her life (until Roxton and Summerlee) who has accepted and loved her for who she is, secrets and all.
Lord only knows what she when through as Parsifal during the war. I suspect she had to kill (and didn't really want to) and hurt people. I think at some point she was in prison (see the scene with her and Askwith in S3 ender Into the Fire. They're talking and he mentions being in prison and military secrets and she tells him she understands and they don't talk about it again. There is a short lived look in her eyes (or it was my imagination) in which I got that it's highly likely that she was in prison at some point in her adult life.
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OMG, I am wracked with a burning curiosity about her whole Parsifal gig. I mean, how did she end up as this notorious spy?! *dies of frustration* But I am so in love with that twist though, it's so awesome that even before he knew her, Roxton was sacrificing himself for her benefit. Just...wow.
Ooh, I must rewatch Into the Fire, I wanna see if I can catch that nuance in the conversation. I admit, I've seen the ending of the ep more often than the beginning, because Roxton screwing up the big relationship talk frustrates me, and the jealousy thing is also irritating. But this ep makes me really like Veronica and Marguerite's friendship! I wish they had more 'good' moments, although sadly, they always seem to be at odds with each other...but that 'sister' comment makes me so giggly and bouncy!
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[Lol, I was responding to the first half of your comment- and I just read the rest of it and have to laugh at how we've basically said exactly the same thing, ha!]
Travelers' is indeed the episode that summons the wrath of my protect-Marguerite-from-BS instincts. Mainly because Veronica spends all her time in season 3 mourning Malone, but when Roxton starts worrying about Marguerite, she just poo-poos the whole thing, like, 'let's get back to my Ned!angst, forget about missing Marguerite!' Who is thinking of their safety and ensuring they survive while Veronica's badmouthing her. UGH.
That black-and-white comment resonates with me. I think that's why I love Marguerite so much, because it makes her so much more real to me. Veronica doesn't understand the reality of life, there are no absolutes, and sometimes you gotta compromise for the greater good. Just because she's never been exposed to everything Marguerite has, she still gets to be naive and think the world operates by black-and-white rules when it doesn't.
I think their interaction in More than Human says it all. From memory...don't sue me, lol.
'Near as I can work it, there are two ways out of here- alive or dinner'. Marguerite forces her to put on that sexy dress, despite her protestations.
M: That's better.
V: Than what?
M: Being dead.
Something along those lines. Veronica's always on this 'all or nothing' quest, she lives by her code or she dies. Which is shortsighted and frustrating. Marguerite sees the larger picture and has the skill and mindset to manipulate people to achieve the best possible outcome.
Leaving aside Veronica, I was rewatching the season 2 opener, All or Nothing and ROXTON won some bashing points by making that crack about Marguerite, 'Looking out for herself as usual' when HELLO, she's scheming to ensure their release, and I believe nobody bothers to thank her. Hmph.
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Yeah, Roxton does mention Marguerite's penchant for looking out for numero uno, but he also knows deep down that she's also looking out for the rest of them. I think he mentions that cause it worries him that she's just as apt to do her damnedest to protect everyone as he does.
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