Just after tonight's episode would have been poor timing
True that. My timing coul've been worse!
But I'm going to try and actually write up a post on the new ep this week, instead of leaving it for a month, lol
I saw it as Graham having a nervous breakdown. He continued the breakdown during the episode but it started before he kissed Emma
The thing is, I can understand him falling apart in the rest of the ep, when his memories were starting to come back, but prior to that, I just can't with him.
Though you bring up an interesting point with the cognitive dissonance- I'd thought of it as 'well, he wants one woman while being with another and he acts like a jerk', but...if the curse is forcing him to want to be with Regina and all of a sudden, Emma 'Curse-breaker' Swan is in town, allowing people the chance to break out of their pre-defined roles, then...wow, that puts a whole new spin on things.
The problem is the show doesn't actually emphasize that, YOU're the smart person making me re-evaluate his actions in a more justifiable light, but they didn't go to that effort. In the ep, he comes off to me as a sore loser who can't stand this woman doesn't return his feelings and just grabs her for a kiss like a jackass.
cohersion comes back into it once you think about how their memories have all been rewritten. Regina wrote him to be her sex toy. Which brings in your point about whether her spell made him her lover
The thing is, I don't understand how this spell works- we never see her sit down and make all these calculations and design everyone's lives like someone playing Sims, she just harvests a heart, presumably conducts the same ceremony as she did earlier with the campfire and is all MWAHAHA, MY VENGEANCE IS IN MOTION. She doesn't seem to actually control how it turns out, which is frustrating to me, because why kill the person you love most and sacrifice your chance for love on revenge through a spell whose parameters you can't even define?
Anyway, all that aside (flogging a dead horse with that, lol, I need to get over it, argh), I'm going with what I see in the show, which is that Graham has no idea of any of this. He doesn't know whether he's under a spell to be with Regina, so his bashing of her to Emma and then turning to her for sex right after irritates me.
But thank you for pointing out a few things I hadn't considered. It hadn't occurred to me that he was facing any emotional turmoil prior to the memories returning. Now that I'm thinking about it, wow, it must be pretty confusing to be in a relationship with someone you don't care for and don't know why you're with and then someone else more intriguing comes along and you can't break out of that pattern...yikes, I can see how that would mess a person up.
But again, I needed you to clarify this for me. Maybe I'm a dim viewer and everybody else got that, but I'm not sure; I think if Graham were played by a better actor- sorry! he just doesn't seem on par with the ladies!- then he'd have sold me on that, but as it is, the impassioned declarations and conflict just seem like wishy-washy teenage angst.
When I contrast that with MM/David, where David is in a similar position, in a relationship with one woman while drawn to another, it doesn't even begin to compare. That comes off tragic, while Graham just...his WOE IS ME thing doesn't sell me on his plight. Even if objectively, I know his situation sucks, emotionally, I'm not connecting.
It doesn't mean she won't do it - whatever it is - but she is not quite as self-assured as she pretends to be
*nodnod* I really love this! The whole 'constructing a persona' thing, presenting an image to the world that she wants to embody...sometimes people think she and characters like her are cheesy and OTT, and I love the idea that it's deliberate, that she's putting on a show because that's expected of her and she's trying damn hard to live up to it.
True that. My timing coul've been worse!
But I'm going to try and actually write up a post on the new ep this week, instead of leaving it for a month, lol
I saw it as Graham having a nervous breakdown. He continued the breakdown during the episode but it started before he kissed Emma
The thing is, I can understand him falling apart in the rest of the ep, when his memories were starting to come back, but prior to that, I just can't with him.
Though you bring up an interesting point with the cognitive dissonance- I'd thought of it as 'well, he wants one woman while being with another and he acts like a jerk', but...if the curse is forcing him to want to be with Regina and all of a sudden, Emma 'Curse-breaker' Swan is in town, allowing people the chance to break out of their pre-defined roles, then...wow, that puts a whole new spin on things.
The problem is the show doesn't actually emphasize that, YOU're the smart person making me re-evaluate his actions in a more justifiable light, but they didn't go to that effort. In the ep, he comes off to me as a sore loser who can't stand this woman doesn't return his feelings and just grabs her for a kiss like a jackass.
cohersion comes back into it once you think about how their memories have all been rewritten. Regina wrote him to be her sex toy. Which brings in your point about whether her spell made him her lover
The thing is, I don't understand how this spell works- we never see her sit down and make all these calculations and design everyone's lives like someone playing Sims, she just harvests a heart, presumably conducts the same ceremony as she did earlier with the campfire and is all MWAHAHA, MY VENGEANCE IS IN MOTION. She doesn't seem to actually control how it turns out, which is frustrating to me, because why kill the person you love most and sacrifice your chance for love on revenge through a spell whose parameters you can't even define?
Anyway, all that aside (flogging a dead horse with that, lol, I need to get over it, argh), I'm going with what I see in the show, which is that Graham has no idea of any of this. He doesn't know whether he's under a spell to be with Regina, so his bashing of her to Emma and then turning to her for sex right after irritates me.
But thank you for pointing out a few things I hadn't considered. It hadn't occurred to me that he was facing any emotional turmoil prior to the memories returning. Now that I'm thinking about it, wow, it must be pretty confusing to be in a relationship with someone you don't care for and don't know why you're with and then someone else more intriguing comes along and you can't break out of that pattern...yikes, I can see how that would mess a person up.
But again, I needed you to clarify this for me. Maybe I'm a dim viewer and everybody else got that, but I'm not sure; I think if Graham were played by a better actor- sorry! he just doesn't seem on par with the ladies!- then he'd have sold me on that, but as it is, the impassioned declarations and conflict just seem like wishy-washy teenage angst.
When I contrast that with MM/David, where David is in a similar position, in a relationship with one woman while drawn to another, it doesn't even begin to compare. That comes off tragic, while Graham just...his WOE IS ME thing doesn't sell me on his plight. Even if objectively, I know his situation sucks, emotionally, I'm not connecting.
It doesn't mean she won't do it - whatever it is - but she is not quite as self-assured as she pretends to be
*nodnod* I really love this! The whole 'constructing a persona' thing, presenting an image to the world that she wants to embody...sometimes people think she and characters like her are cheesy and OTT, and I love the idea that it's deliberate, that she's putting on a show because that's expected of her and she's trying damn hard to live up to it.
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