Long and Rambling Notes on TDW: Jessica Pontificates

[borderline_mary]

So I'm back from basically nowhere! Mostly for you, Anne. I like you. Also I feel like you might discuss all the below stuff with me, because.

Disclaimer: I liked this movie. The first big chunk of stuff below makes it look like I hated it, but I’m just getting the bad stuff out of the way first.

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[silent_lorelei]

...unless he DID go to Valhalla, which is technically possible because that's where people who fall in battle are supposed to go, but Odin is being pretty not cool with him right now so might still be barred to him? It would be pretty poignant, after that "See you in Hel," if he actually did end up in the warriors' paradise instead. It could be Odin himself who let Loki back out of death, having accepted that he redeemed himself by aiding Thor and saving the universe, or because after all this he actually still cares enough about his adopted son that he isn't willing to just let him die.

Of course, that would not make sense with the scene of Loki returning in disguise to inform Odin of his death, though.

...unless it is a giant two-man con that they are both in on. Which is so totally possible, those motherfuckers. And would make a lot of sense, just like in the first movie, when it comes to how Thor is once again able to so easily commit treason and roll out of Asgard without Odin noticing or stopping him or having thought ahead to the possibility. The deal might have been made before Thor ever went down to "clandestinely" recruit his brother, because Odin might have just said, "Hmm, what would I do if I were Thor? I'd go get Loki. Hey, Loki, do what I want and I'll let you out of jail and/or give you some power and/or other prizes." Not a great deal for Loki, who is then once again kind of under his father's thumb and dealing with the possibility of being turned on... but then again, better trying to match wits with the Allfather than rotting in the dungeon forever.

I noticed in the theatre, actually, that when Loki says "We found a body," Odin's response is simply the word, "Loki." Which might mean he realizes that this random guard is informing him of his son's death... but also might be him just greeting the person in front of him.

I think I've strayed into "writers were not thinking about this that deeply, Anne" territory now, though.