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Vidding chat: First vids

Oct 04, 2008 20:53

I was so thrilled by the response to the first vidding chat last week. Thank you to everyone that shared! I was especially pleased to see people chatting among themselves in the comments--please always feel free to do so.

( This week: your first vid )

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My first vid: Part 1 daybreak777 October 4 2008, 15:31:21 UTC

This post makes me kinda shy. Thanks to Bop for saying how first vids hold a place in your heart, even though you may wince a little when you see your mistakes. I love my first vid, I only made it a few months ago. And there is nothing I would change, I did my best. But I am a bit shy linking to it for all you 'real' vidders to see. Maybe I will toward the end of this comment ( ... )

Re: My first vid: Part 2 daybreak777 October 4 2008, 15:35:26 UTC

What did I personally learn about vidding? To never give up if you have a vision. That you can conquer your vidding challenges with time and perserverance. And that each vidder has something different to say. To find your own voice and not be afraid to share it. And if your vid has heart, your heart, it will show right through. That's the feedback I got on my vid. People got it, my little show characters whom I love so hard. If anyone new is reading this, you put your heart into something and they will see yours too. :-)

My vid took me three weeks to make. Lots of IMing and e-mails with my two betas. I didn't need as much help with actual story or clip choosing, but it was nice to have encouragement. I continue to struggle with editing and trimming but the results are worth it. My heart still soars when I watch my first vid. It's called Romeo and Juliet and it's here. Creating that fade transition is when I fell in love with vidding. Yup. The idea that I can make my own story for people to see on screen. And I can do it again and ( ... )

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Re: My first vid: Part 2 daybreak777 October 4 2008, 19:12:38 UTC

I figure myself in vidding second grade. As for zen, it is so easy to be zen when not in the middle of vidding. :-)

And thanks for saying the vid worked for you especially when you've seen it so many times and are not a K/L shipper. :-)

I do like to enable vidders' vids! It is so cool to see different takes on different shows. And like to watch vids, so the more people make the more I get to watch!

(And Bop is the real enabler. :-) She is so great to host these discussions in her journal so we all can learn.)

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callmeonetrack October 4 2008, 16:18:34 UTC

Yay for vidding chats! I'm so glad you're hosting these Bop.

I just made my first vid, Shine a few weeks ago. It's a BSG shipper video for L/K. I'm a writer and have never done anything like manipulating video clips before but I'd enjoyed other people's vids and found this song, Shine by Anna Nalick, that I'd loved when I'd first heard it and it had so many lyrics that reminded me of these characters and their relationship that the idea of vidding it got to me ( ... )

daybreak777 October 4 2008, 19:15:09 UTC

And just last week I got my next vid idea bunny!
Yay, for new vid bunnies! You're hooked now. I wonder, what was the moment that hooked you and makes you want to vid again?

callmeonetrack October 5 2008, 04:38:39 UTC

You know I'm not sure. I don't think I can point to an actual moment. I think just the cumulative effect of putting it together and thinking and thinking and getting feedback and re-editing all just kind of got me and made me want to do it again. I think knowing how to technically maneuver a video editing program now and thinking more about ways to interpret clips makes me want to see how much farther I can go.

That being said, I still wouldn't be able to vid without first hearing a song and having a little inspiration happen. I heard a song while I was on vacation that I know and love and it pinged as a Starbuck song for me for the very first time. Even though it's country. And BSG and country don't generally go together in my head but I think this might be a little Crack!vid-ish and I kinda like that. We shall see. ;)

bop_radar October 5 2008, 00:58:53 UTC

Oh! Oh! Oh! And I just watched your vid (this vidding chat turns out to be a selfish excuse on my part to watch new vids!) and it is so lovely it made me CRY! Leeeeee! Kaaaaara! Oh, you have quite returned my piloty heart to me! Thud. (Poets and pornstars! PERFECT!)

*pauses for recovery*

I learned that vidding was very time consuming
Hee. Yes, understatement.

problems I kind of knew were there but had rushed because I so wanted to finish it
Then they were very good betas! ;) I love/hate it when betas do that. :)

I tried to cut the clips so that images and transitions coincided with climactic beats and changes in the song. I'm not sure I got it exactly.
I think you did very well.

And just last week I got my next vid idea bunny!You did! I'm thrilled ( ... )

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daybreak777 October 4 2008, 18:48:56 UTC

"But is it saying anything?"
Hee, this is a funny and nice memory for me. Are you finally convinced it is saying something? :-)

And then I was attacked by a mob of vid bunnies. The end.
Hee! Oh noes! I wonder if it's because we are new? Do more experienced vidders continue to get mobbed with reproducing bunnies, I wonder?

They don’t have to be a vidder buddy, just someone to squee with is so, so helpful and encouraging. Vidding: don’t keep it to yourself!
It is awesome to have a buddy. Or buddies. And you are so right. I was so going to vid alone and in sekrit. I am SO glad I didn't. :-)

bop_radar October 5 2008, 00:14:10 UTC

Ohhh, chaila43! It is wonderful, your first vid! I just watched it--I have been on a self-imposed break from BSG and am just starting to come out of it now--and I love it. It has such vision! And the song choice is uncanny.

This is a perfect 'first vid' story--having an idea and realising noone else has made it or will make it and so eventually it pushing you to make it.

They don’t have to be a vidder buddy, just someone to squee with is so, so helpful and encouraging. Vidding: don’t keep it to yourself!
I love that advice! And I haven't seen that many people give it. I agree it doesn't have to be someone who knows anything much about vidding, as long as they are encouraging and supportive of your first creative baby steps in a new medium.

But is it saying anything?
Hee! That's a hard one for this vid too, because it's such a mood piece and it kind of carries its message in the mood and tone and emotional resonance, rather than making a simple statement (which I think is a good thing).

it's all very, very subjective so I should just make ( ... )

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chasarumba October 4 2008, 20:25:32 UTC

Wow, these questions are surprisingly hard to answer! Not because of the questions, but because I made my first vid over 5 years ago and my brain IS A SIEVE.

It was a Jossverse vid about Darla and Connor. The song is cheesy and not a very good fit (this was one of the few cases where I went looking for a song to fit a topic, with poor results). I was using basic editing software and the tech is rather awful. I rendered it out in quality that was good for the time (nobody was putting out 50 MB vids at that point since high-speed connections weren't as common), but now looks simply horrid...I didn't have a DVD burner then, so I didn't bother archiving a high quality render for my own records. I wasn't connected with a community of vidders yet, so I had no information resources to draw upon and was basically stumbling around in the dark and it showsBut I remember a moment during the editing of the vid, when I had laid down the clips that built to the peak of the song and I previewed it -- there were tears! And chills! Because I made ( ... )

bop_radar October 4 2008, 23:43:59 UTC

That is a wonderful first vid story! I watched the vid (I love Darla and Connor!) and I love that you left it as is. There is something very pure and honest about that, as you say.

You use effects in that first vid that I am still terrified to try (I am so phobic of effects) so I love the bravery I can see in it.

And yes, I think leaving first vids available for others to see is a great way to encourage new vidders. It's not like we all burst into vidding with a perfect understanding of either the tech or the creative nuances! And it's also surprising how much can be achieved with a first vid.

Try not to let yourself be paralyzed by information and tech concerns and other peoples' opinions about what constitutes good vidding...there's so much time for that stuff LATER.
Absolutely! That is the best advice anyone can give a beginner, I think. Try it first, worry about the other stuff later, once you know whether you like vidding or not.

chasarumba October 7 2008, 01:14:37 UTC

You use effects in that first vid that I am still terrified to try (I am so phobic of effects) so I love the bravery I can see in it.

That first piece of software I used had pretty much nothing else going for it except built-in effects :) So I'm not sure it was bravery so much as..."hmmm, what will this button do?" Seriously, it was a linear editing program, so you could not jump around on the timeline like can with non-linear software (you had to work through in order leaving no gaps on the timeline) and timing things to the music involved a calculator and lots of math. It was like some crazy mixed-up world where basic editing was tough to achieve, but effects were easy (well, as long as you liked them as they were, because you couldn't customize much). Heh, those were the days :)

nicole_anell October 5 2008, 05:17:50 UTC

(Random: Oh my goodness, you made that "Nobody Does It Better" Jossverse vid. I remember LOVING that vid. Hi!)

I just watched the Darla & Connor vid. Awww. I'm impressed you were able to vid them at all since their screentime together was so limited (not counting her pregnancy and character arc) so I think that's really cool.

I couldn't agree more with your JUST DO IT advice. As someone who went ahead and made at least a dozen badvids before I started making good ones, I feel bad that some people are nervous to start because they don't think they'll measure up. Just try. You'll see yourself get better with everything you do.

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brokenmnemonic October 4 2008, 22:17:17 UTC

Can I blame my memory for any vagueness in this? It seems like a long time ago now, but I made my first vid - in fact, my first 3 vids - in Feb 06. I'm not on my home PC, so I can't check some of the details, but I think I remember what got me started ( ... )

bop_radar October 4 2008, 23:34:45 UTC

Aww, thanks for sharing your story! The first time you post a vid is so nerve-wracking, it's true. But it sounds like you got the encouragement you needed.

my vid is to meta what crayon drawings on a wall are to the Lindisfarne scrolls
Hee! I think I still feel like that on bad days... and not just about my first vid (which wasn't very meta-y at all but was more of a mood piece)!

brokenmnemonic October 5 2008, 19:57:43 UTC

I look back, and I'm amazed I got the nerve together to post a vid anywhere... but it was around the time of that creative high where writing seemed to be going so well and everything just felt upbeat and positive. And I was so excited because three whole people liked it! It feels like a really long time ago now.

Hee! I think I still feel like that on bad days... and not just about my first vid (which wasn't very meta-y at all but was more of a mood piece)!
You agonise a lot about meta in vids :) It's something you craft in your vids to a far higher standard than mine, and I think the degree of care you show in your meta reflects in the amount of frustration it gives you ;)

daybreak777 October 6 2008, 04:44:54 UTC

And I was so excited because three whole people liked it!
Hee! That's how I feel! Some of my vid bunnies are so rare and well, what I like. If three people like them, (or even just one, as you once said) and I like them, then I will be a happy vidder. :-)

Oh, and if WMM doesn't kill me or something. But no, I'm going to start cheating on it soon, so it won't suspect a thing! And I'll be ready to walk when necessary. ;-))

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