Pilot-centric thoughts post-4.02

Apr 17, 2008 10:22

I've been working on my post about my holiday but it's loooong and in the meantime my thoughts keep flying back to BSG. Not helped by the fact that wisteria_ has posed some terrific burning questions about the first two eps. I couldn't really answer any of them but I do have more to say on the subject of pilots.
tl;dr ramblings, with a warning for sap )

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katiebugs18 April 17 2008, 16:29:51 UTC
Great post. This is in no way hideously sappy, right now there is no such thing as too sappy when it comes to Pilots!

Both Kara and Lee are more emotionally centred this season...There's an inner stillness and certainty to each of them, regardless of what's going on on the outside.

So true and it's such a relief. It's as if they (and by extension us) can breath a bit easier. For Lee it was the chat with Dad but for Kara, the part where I thought it was glaringly obvious (because we did see under-tones of it before this) is how genuinely happy she seems for Lee. Despite Lee leaving not just Galactica but the Fleet as well (something Kara views as her world) she seems genuinely happy and hopeful for him. I thought it was lovely of her. They've both found their centers, their destiny's, and are comfortable with themselves so now they can really and truly focus on the other in an honest, healthy way.

'Except me' and 'Especially you' were a bit 'wtf' to Lee and Kara themselves, respectively.

To them and to me. But I like your explanation. It works so I'm gonna go with it.

she instead calls out. And then she accepts his kisses. It was very clear that it was Lee kissing Kara, and not the other way around. A receptive Kara Thrace and an acting Lee Adama are so beautiful!

See Kara calling Lee back was pretty much when I turned to goo. I mean she called him. The last time she did that was after their fight in 'KLG1' and at that time he walked away and then we all know how that turned out. I thought it was huge of her to call to him and leave herself open like that. I was pretty much mush after that. But I completely agree, he's the one who truly acts on this. Kara throws it out there but Lee's the one who picks it up and acts and it's beautiful and lovely and oh so amazing.

I still really cannot read this is a closure/ending scene for them in any way.

People see this as an ending? Really? I find that surprising. Because I view it as a beginning. Yeah sure they're being separated in the immediate and physical sense but emotionally they're at a really good place. A place where, when they are reunited, they can pick up and move forward because they've reached some kind of understanding with each other. How can anyone view that scene as an ending scene. The ending/closure scene in that episode was the one between Lee and Dee. THAT was closure, THAT was an ending. Now if Lee would just stop wearing his wedding ring (come on Jamie, you took it off for the mini and 2.5 seasons, you can do it). But Lee and Kara, that's a beginning.

Wow, I am super!sappy. Thank god the next episode is coming soon so that I'll stop being so INSUFFERABLY HAPPY about them.

I'm not even sure the new episode can really do that. Because frankly, we deserve to glow over this for a little while longer. Again, great post.

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bop_radar April 18 2008, 02:16:44 UTC
Thank you!

So true and it's such a relief. It's as if they (and by extension us) can breath a bit easier
*nods* It feels as if their inner jangly-ness and jitteriness has evaporated. None of the surface issues are really resolved, but undeerneath there's a stillness.

the part where I thought it was glaringly obvious (because we did see under-tones of it before this) is how genuinely happy she seems for Lee
Mm, yeah the fact that she was able to be that points to a real emotional shift in her. It's incredible that she can feel that way at such a tough time as this so it suggests that what she's gone through is helping her see things in a bigger perspective and with an emotional distance that is rare.

I mean she called him. The last time she did that was after their fight in 'KLG1' and at that time he walked away and then we all know how that turned out. I thought it was huge of her to call to him and leave herself open like that.
Oh, nice reference. I hadn't drawn that parallel myself, but you're right. Because Lee didn't read it the right way then, there's a history of it not working out when she calls out to him. I agree it was incredible to see her do so here--I'm so used to Kara not doing so--and definitely made me all mushy too. Thank you, Kara!

People see this as an ending? Really? I find that surprising. Because I view it as a beginning.
Thank you! Yes, me too. Fandom is odd sometimes.

The ending/closure scene in that episode was the one between Lee and Dee. THAT was closure, THAT was an ending. Now if Lee would just stop wearing his wedding ring
It's odd to me that he IS still wearing it. I don't know what to make of that, because their scene was very much closure. Perhaps the papers haven't been signed yet? Or perhaps he just didn't want to upset Dee by taking it off before he physically left Galactica. Or it was just sloppiness. ;) Not sure.

Because frankly, we deserve to glow over this for a little while longer.
Yay! I'm glad you're revelling in the glow with me. :D

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katiebugs18 April 18 2008, 21:45:30 UTC
It's odd to me that he IS still wearing it. I don't know what to make of that, because their scene was very much closure. Perhaps the papers haven't been signed yet? Or perhaps he just didn't want to upset Dee by taking it off before he physically left Galactica. Or it was just sloppiness. ;) Not sure.

Honestly, I think it's sloppiness. I think Jamie and everyone got so used to him wearing it that no one's really noticed he still is. And if anyone has after the fact they can chalk it up to Lee waiting till the divorce is all signed and sealed or whatever. But I'll be annoyed if he doesn't lose it soon.

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