Plagiarism alert!

Jul 28, 2009 16:26

I was randomly browsing through fics today and I ran across a bunch of hikago fics by radiosilence over at Dreamwidth.

So I clicked on one randomly and went, ....WAIT A SEC.

Excerpt from "the nightengale" (sic): eta: journal has been deleted; alternate link for this fic is here on her LJ here, archived at my website.

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oh is that what you're doing? yessss derogatory July 28 2009, 20:41:47 UTC
I don't know how I feel about a couple ouran pieces, but nothing concrete yet. What a skeeve. Can't you use your BNF to make ppl troll this journal?

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Re: oh is that what you're doing? yessss bookshop July 28 2009, 20:43:24 UTC

THAT IS IT, i can't really pinpoint anything concrete apart from what i posted above, it just FEELS REALLY SKEEVY. SKEEVEY? WHATEVER.

Jax. The day i have to order you to practice intimidation will be a sad, sad day.

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Re: oh is that what you're doing? yessss derogatory July 28 2009, 20:45:20 UTC
None of the Ouran pieces are MINE but they stink of phrases and things that sound like I've read it before like in la_foule, so unless this is bing or cathy incognito, this chick is a hack writer.

Well I don't feel right intimidating for Cathy without her consent first. And you don't order me around, loser.

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Re: oh is that what you're doing? yessss bookshop July 28 2009, 20:56:47 UTC

Whatever, Cathy is a pushover, i try to urge her to think for herself and i only hear things like NIFFLER ALIEN BODYSNATCHERS, it is very disheartening.

I think from what Cathy said that the la_foule connection is definitely a ripoff along the same lines as the other hikago fics i mentioned.

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havocthecat July 28 2009, 20:43:12 UTC
Have you heard of the stop_plagiarism community?

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bookshop July 28 2009, 20:47:34 UTC

ooooh. probably I had at one point but i had forgotten, so thank you for the reminder! :D

i think i will wait to see if we find any other examples before reporting it. Cathy contacted her, too, so i will also wait to see if she responds.

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sleepingfingers July 28 2009, 20:50:45 UTC
The "Series of Less-than-fortunate Events" was something she wrote here for the latest blind_go -- and the nightengale was also another blind_go fic. I wonder why nothing was raised up when these fics were first posted to blind_go...

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bookshop July 28 2009, 20:56:01 UTC

Well, partly it's coincidence: if I'd noticed the fic similarities at the time, I would have said something about it to the blind_go mods. I haven't really been active in hikago fandom lately apart from casually reading fics (which is about as active as i've ever been to begin with).

but also, running across that *and* the plagiarism of Cathy's fic at the same time was really the clincher. By itself I might have written it off as a fluke or unconscious influence. Taken with the other examples (and derogatory pointed out another instance above), there's no way.

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sleepingfingers July 28 2009, 21:06:40 UTC
I read the fics at the time, but went through them too quickly to really notice the similarities. But yeah, the similarities with two-if-by-sea's fics are very much blatant, imo.

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bookshop July 28 2009, 21:08:26 UTC

well, i mean, i only have vague notions about the other hikago fics because they aren't *mine* - it's not like i would really expect anyone else to twig to those particular parallel scenes between her fic and mine.

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derogatory July 28 2009, 20:54:12 UTC
A Post where she addresses various styles of writing. I think the best style is when you write your own work instead of ripping off others'.

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bookshop July 28 2009, 21:08:46 UTC

wow. have requested the courtesy of a comment.

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two_if_by_sea July 28 2009, 21:19:48 UTC
JACKIE SHE JUST DELETED HER STORY ABOUT ECLAIR

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derogatory July 28 2009, 21:33:21 UTC
The one with the crappy french title?

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suaine July 28 2009, 21:30:40 UTC
Oh, that's just vile. It's not word for word plagiarism but it's far too similar to be coincidence. Especially Cathy's (truly beautiful fic, and I've never heard of Hero). The little shit couldn't possibly have written that without Cathy's fic as reference.

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suaine September 9 2010, 07:48:04 UTC
To be perfectly honest? This post is a little sickening. I will admit there are similarities - I only read through the Cathy vs whoever else ones - but just because there are similar concepts explored (although the entire core message of most of the maps and territories one was something that was only explored peripherally in one paragraph by Cathy) doesn't mean it's plagiarism. And to be perfectly honest, I liked the maps and territories one better - the writing style, for one thing, seemed much more sophisticated and the images gripped me more. And unintentionally making a story similar = plagiarism? THAT right there is just...ew. No. If you are not DELIBERATELY passing off someone else's ideas as your own, then it's coincidence - NOT plagiarism.

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suaine September 9 2010, 08:51:38 UTC
I assume this wasn't supposed to go to my comment rather than the whole post, but let me assure you that the issue has caused enough wank years ago when it happened. I personally never apologized for the way I expressed myself here (though I remember vaguely that afterwards I read the webcomic in question and there wasn't enough in the *wording* of that to make me think the similarities in the language of both stories were entirely coincidental) but Aja has. I don't know why you bring this up now.

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