Do we need the term "First Lady"? Thoughts on Michelle Obama...

Apr 02, 2009 02:32

Michelle Obama’s trip to the G-20 summit is perhaps as publicized as her husband’s, though for different reasons; the main concern with her trip is “What is she wearing” (J. Crew) and “Who is she sitting next to at dinner?” (J.K. Rowling, among others ( Read more... )

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archon_mentha April 2 2009, 14:00:46 UTC
why should her beauty be any more accidental than her intelligence, or her serious demeanor

Yes! This is something I wish people asked more often. I remember way back when Johnny Carson was still hosting, Dudley Moore was on the Tonight Show, and in his interview he said something very close to: it's as superficial to like someone for their intelligence as it is for their beauty.

He said is badly, and was boo'd by the audience - but he was right. People don't choose to be smart any more than they choose to be beautiful. It doesn't reflect on who they are as a human being.

My question is this: do you think Michelle can, or should, redefine what it means to be "First Lady"? I like the term "First Lady" - but then, I also like "First Gentleman" for a president's husband. It's a job in itself. I've read feminist criticisms of Michelle for quitting her job to further her husband's career - but again, I personally would expect the same of a female president's husband. It would seem almost disrespectful, in a way, for the spouse ( ... )

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book_rapport April 3 2009, 04:32:09 UTC
Hi!! Thank you for your incredibly thoughtful comment-- I enjoyed reading your perspective ( ... )

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archon_mentha April 3 2009, 13:26:57 UTC
Interesting - I think we have very different impressions of what the role of the First Lady is. When I think of the role, I think of Eleanor Roosevelt, of Nancy Regan (who I don't like or agree with but respect), and Hillary Clinton. I think they are remembered for their contributions and causes rather than the little extras like Christmas lights. :)

And I would love to see a First Gentleman discussing menus, and Christmas lights, and things like that. There's nothing wrong with domesticity - it's necessary and good - and it'd be amazing to see the stigma taken away from the many men involved in those roles.

I look forward to seeing how she balances being a mother with staying true to her intellectual self.

This sentence is problematic to me. It implies a distinction where there is none - and THAT is part of the negative attitudes about motherhood to which I was referring. Loving her children and taking good care of them adds a dimension to a woman's personality; it shouldn't be seen as taking anything away from her. :)

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book_rapport April 7 2009, 05:45:54 UTC
Hi! Thanks for leaving me such a thoughtful comment-- sorry it's taken a bit long for me to get back to you!

There's nothing wrong with domesticity - it's necessary and good - and it'd be amazing to see the stigma taken away from the many men involved in those roles.

I think you're absolutely right; I suppose my pessimism makes me despair because I don't think, in our current culture of masculinity and machoism, that it would happen anytime soon.

This sentence is problematic to me. It implies a distinction where there is none - and THAT is part of the negative attitudes about motherhood to which I was referring. Loving her children and taking good care of them adds a dimension to a woman's personality; it shouldn't be seen as taking anything away from her. :)I adore you for this sentence!! You are absolutely right!! Upon reflection, I suppose I mean that she's already given up her career in order to take care of her children while she and her husband campaigned, and now she has a "career" that she's publically stated she never ( ... )

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archon_mentha April 7 2009, 13:22:42 UTC
Thank you for posting such a thoughtful post and replies! It's an important subject.

Sadly, you're probably right about the machoism - at the best, I suppose there'd be a different spin on the same things. Like that commercial where the men refer to their shower poufs as lather-builders. *g* I guess I try to think of things in terms of the best eventual result, rather than the getting-there, which isn't always immediately practical.

So I guess I mean to say I hope she is able to achieve her intellectual/professional dreams

Here too, so much. If things go well, I wouldn't be surprised if she became the first female president - if she chose to. Hillary came close - it seems like even if Michelle didn't want to be First Lady, the experience could definitely be an enormous asset for her future ambitions, whatever they may be.

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