no, really, things look different from other people's perspectives

Jul 29, 2009 18:12

Star Trek has never really been my fandom of choice, but I've picked up a good deal of information about it from cultural osmosis and dabbling ( Read more... )

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emmacrew July 30 2009, 01:54:09 UTC
I think that post is pretty awesome. What it makes me wonder: is it somehow culturally easier for her to be with Spock than someone else (though dang, Kirk was sure trying to get in her pants, too) because he's only half human, and putting her with a white guy would still not really happen (the infamous TOS kiss notwithstanding).

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boojum July 30 2009, 16:23:46 UTC
Huh. That's an interesting question. Especially since Nimoy has said that he was purposefully drawing on an American Jewish perspective to play Spock, which puts more complication in the mix. I don't know if Quinto was continuing that -- I had a hard time not reading Quinto as Syler (from Heroes), so I had trouble getting the subtleties of his presentation.

I think, given the characters as presented in the movie (and to some extent, existing canon), that putting Uhura in a relationship with Kirk would be less good for her. First, it would be the standard Hollywood trope of his interest and her disinterest = Twoo Wuv (grr). Second, she's a smart, responsible, intellectual character. People like that are unlikely to form relationships with irresponsible action types, and when they do, they're often unhappy. Third, he's not looking for anything more than getting laid.

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emmacrew July 30 2009, 17:09:58 UTC
Oh, yeah, I wouldn't want to imagine her with Kirk, it would be another "even smart girls can't resist a bad boy" which we totally don't need. But could they have felt like they could put her together with Scotty or Bones? I'm not sure.

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boojum July 30 2009, 21:56:41 UTC
Yeah. And we don't have enough other characters to compare to, given Hollywood's issues with race and sex.

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boojum July 30 2009, 22:30:00 UTC
I do know of one mainstream TV show that does both inter- and intraracial relationships without it being a big deal: Alias. A and I are watching it on DVD, so I don't know if it's still showing. It's still got major race and gender issues (Why can't women who aren't romantically entangled with a CIA man work at the CIA? Why are there no Latinas/Latinos in LA?), but it's better than most I've seen.

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emmacrew July 31 2009, 04:31:54 UTC
Yeah, my pop culture references are pretty much a big gaping hole at the moment since the only TV show I've watched much of in the past several years is Battlestar Galactica, and we're lucky if we make it to a movie every few months.

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