Socialization

Apr 03, 2012 20:37

In the homeschooling post, a common theme (and common to most homeschooling discussions) is socialization. Kids need it, it's easier to get in a public school ( Read more... )

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merlyn4401 April 4 2012, 01:04:07 UTC
That's...really not my experience of a grade school classroom. My kids' classes are interacting and working with each other all day long, not just in a couple of 15 minute blocks. Plus they mix up the classes regularly for specials (music, art, gym, or computers) that they have every day. IDK, I think that's a really biased description.

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anne_t_social April 4 2012, 01:18:34 UTC
What are you on about? This post isn't biased at all!

You can phrase anything to sound bad. Like if I said to you, how would you like to be unconscious and paralyzed and hallucinating for 8 hours? That sounds a lot worse than if I ask you if you want to go to sleep.

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merlyn4401 April 4 2012, 01:21:20 UTC
LOL Are you really paralyzed when you sleep? I though there was something called sleep paralysis that's supposed to be really terrifying - because it isn't normal.

/tangent

I never think about this stuff. If anything, my kids are OVER socialized, between school, scouts, sports, religious education and camps. Like someone below said, I WISH I had my kids' ease at socialization and had their social life.

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anne_t_social April 4 2012, 01:39:28 UTC
Well, you're paralyzed during REM sleep, anyway. The current thought is that it's our body's way of stopping us from acting out our dreams.

Sleep paralysis can either happen as you're falling asleep or when you're waking up. What happens is that your body is starting to prepare for REM sleep (or is just coming out of it), but you're conscious as the paralysis sets in (or it's still there when you wake up). It actually happened to me once and it was pretty scary!

Yeah, I'd say that I was pretty well socialized as a kid, too. Kids are just naturally social creatures.

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merlyn4401 April 4 2012, 01:47:47 UTC
Huh. Interesting. :)

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idemandjustice April 4 2012, 01:50:40 UTC
Sleep paralysis is when you wake up too fast and the paralysis hasn't worn off. You WANT to be paralyzed when you're sleeping, so you don't act out your dreams and get hurt. That's when sleep-walking comes in.

I have hypnagogic hallucinations (which is when you start dreaming before you're entirely unconscious, and what you see seems real, and then you freak the fuck out) and have done a lot of reading about sleep disorders. I think my dad has sleep paralysis, but he thinks the shit he's seen is real. Most alien abduction stories can totally be explained away as sleep paralysis; it's text book.

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merlyn4401 April 4 2012, 01:52:01 UTC
OK, see, I just sleep, so I am totally unaware of this other stuff. The only sleep disorder I have is occasional insomnia, and there's nothing interesting about that. :p

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wolfden April 4 2012, 02:38:57 UTC
I take sleep medication and I frequently hallucinate and then scream as i am falling asleep. My husband loves it (not). It's terrifying when it happens.

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bestdaywelived April 4 2012, 13:06:03 UTC
I have those, too. I always call them night terrors - I wake up and jump out of bed way too often, screaming about bugs on the ceiling that aren't there.

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idemandjustice April 4 2012, 13:53:35 UTC
I used to call them night terrors, too, before I found the actual word for it. Sometimes I see someone standing in the room or in the bed next to me. Sometimes I see bugs, or objects in my room floating toward the ceiling. Once, I saw someone standing there, and before thinking clearly, I chucked a glass candle holder at it! Thankfully that didn't shatter. Usually I try to get away. Another recurring one I have is thinking the ceiling is falling down and about to crush me, so I leap out of bed in an attempt to avoid it. Usually all my covers come off the bed with me, so then I have to go through the trouble of remaking my entire bed after that.

These didn't start for me until I was in high school, which seems weird to me.

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sadistnation April 4 2012, 20:25:42 UTC
Whoa, that sounds exactly like what I experience, i call it night terrors as well. I didnt realize there was a name.

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thesammichfox April 5 2012, 00:37:30 UTC
I didn't realize that your not supposed to dream other times then in the rem cycle. I just always thought that it was a normal thing that happens(the hypnagogic hallucinations thing) every once in a blue moon.

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idemandjustice April 5 2012, 01:00:25 UTC
I think it is fairly normal, but usually you're not supposed to notice and just drift the rest of the way to sleep, instead of freak the hell out.

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athinker April 4 2012, 01:47:07 UTC
lol, kind of like how one could write a post about how living in the city is the best possible option? I'm not being snarky, I honestly think it is funny.

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anne_t_social April 4 2012, 02:09:44 UTC
I'm sure I have no idea what you are talking about!

That post was actually me TRYING (and clearly failing) to sound unbiased. Clearly I am not very good at hiding my city love. Or suburb fear. Not sure which it is.

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athinker April 4 2012, 02:40:33 UTC
No worries, I just thought that comment was all sorts of Alanis Morissette-y ironic.

As a country mouse the bias was easy to see and in general I hate the debate that comes from country vs city for child rearing question as a personal pet peeve. It is just a matter of preference is all and I don't think there is a one size fits all answer. I love cities, they are great places to visit!

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