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[blurstoftimes]

"I would like to say to Cindy Sheehan and her supporters: Don't be a group of unthinking lemmings," said Mitzy Kenny of Ridgeley, West Virginia, whose husband died in Iraq last year. She said the anti-war demonstrations "can affect the war in a really negative way. It gives the enemy hope."

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[_jejune]

My 10-second take on this issue:
- Preemptive defense is a shady area in international politics. A country is only supposed to go to war if it needs to defend itself. Military action is a stupid loophole.
- It would be really irresponsible for the US to pull out of Iraq now: we should be there until the country is stable.
- Unfortunately, Iraq will not be stable for awhile, if ever. Our choices are: withdraw now, civil war now; or withdraw later, civil war later.
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(excuse the terrible photoshop)

"A Modest Proposal"-esque disclaimer: One of my friends was killed in Baghdad about a year and a half ago. He had already served overseas years prior, and he was in the National Guard when he was killed. Figure that one out. Also, my father is a republican, hates Bush and didn't want us to intervene in Iraq in the first place.

[zacharyisageek]

"Also, my father is a republican, hates Bush and didn't want us to intervene in Iraq in the first place."

I know a lot of people who share that sentiment.

[_jejune]

Are any of these people from the midwest or the bible belt though?

Bush isn't actually from that area - he didn't grow up there, so I have no idea why so many people feel like they can relate to him. I don't know any middle-class, ultra-conservative Christians that aspire to go to Yale... and can afford it. (Though, to be fair, I don't know any ultra-conservative Christians, period. Maybe conservative Catholics, but they don't count)

[zacharyisageek]

No, most of them are from this area, and only one of them is a conservative christian.

[blurstoftimes]

I think there's more to this quote than just the irony of "lol pro-war people are unthinking lemmings too" (which they are. As hot topic-y as it sounds, the vast majority of people are. There's as much groupthink bullshit on the left as there is on the right. You go to Emerson as well, so you realize this.

I just don't think that anti-war demonstrations can affect the war in any way. I do think that, while Sheehan's heart is in the right place, the philosophical foundation of her demonstrations is a little weak.

I agree that pulling out of Iraq now doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. (So does everyone with a decent head on their shoulders. I don't get Sheehan.) I do think (hope?), though, that anyone with the slightest bit of sense realizes that we shouldn't have gone in the first place.

In conclusion, that photoshop is from one of my three or four favorite Achewoods. I regularly think of the last panel in that cartoon and laugh out loud.

[_jejune]

I definitely saw the point of protesting before we went all apeshit in Iraq. I protested before we officially went to war. Now we can only try to be good humanitarians and get our collective act together. The States basically remind me of a drunk frat boy in a bar that starts a fight with some dude because he was accidentally elbowed. England is like his drunk buddy that jumps in without trying to understand the situation, and the UN is like the girlfriend that's crying and threatening to leave.

The honor of my favorite Achewood strip is split between these two, because it's really a two-parter. But man, making fun of Garfield is so wonderful.

[blurstoftimes]

truth.

although in lieu of picking a favorite achewood strip per se, i think that the entire beef/ray road trip story arc is one of the most brilliant things i've ever read

[_jejune]

Yeah. I may reconsider my favorite after remembering the whole Oregon Trail plot point. "A tender letter arrives from Hiram the blacksmith. Do you want to read it?" "He wrote!"

[blurstoftimes]

also as much as i respect your taste otherwise i understand from your entries that you like questionable content which is just plain not a good comic

it was better when he didn't focus on girls and referenced pavement and brainiac instead of just selling shirts

[_jejune]

Yeah. But Jeph is a nice guy. Sometimes though... Like the current storyline where we're learning more about Faye's past and how she had "issues" with a boy that are unclear and scary. I kind of can't help but groan. Lately, the daily strip is usually like, "exposition, exposition, exposition, Raven says something dumb." Also, you can't really blame Jeph for marketing shirts so much - it's his livelihood.

Honestly, I don't know why I read Diesel Sweeties anymore. Except that Rich is also a nice guy and makes good T-shirts. He even offered me a seat on his lap when we went for coffee and it was really crowded!

[blurstoftimes]

rich and i used to shop at the same comic store when we both lived in connecticut. i never saw him there but the owner always told me he would come in.

bingo on the exposition/raven says something dumb. for a long time it was the exact same thing but with the robot, i forget his name.