Stand back, I'm going to try prognostication...

Jan 12, 2011 21:51

If you work in the business of generating web pages to display to users, you need to know: there's going to be some major changes in the browser landscape over the next year or three ( Read more... )

prognosticatin', web, mobile, web standards, werk

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davidwake January 13 2011, 10:30:00 UTC
I really must get sorted with something that allows me to program on the web. Any advice?

My recent virus attack scuppered my Delphi, so I can't actually program at the moment (or find anywhere that sells early Delphi versions).

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stsquad January 13 2011, 11:20:16 UTC
If you want a Free as in Freedom Delphi you could look at Lazarus. My Dad is a old-school Pascal man and has been using it happily for his hacking.

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davidwake January 13 2011, 11:30:30 UTC
Ah, I'm an old-school Pascal man. It's downloading now in the background and I shall have a play tomorrow.

Many thanks. (It's mostly to get my replacement for Vista's cack-handed copy function working again.)

What about simple programming on the web?

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stsquad January 13 2011, 12:09:36 UTC
There are essentially two sides to web-programming these days. All the fancy form-filling and whizzy effects are done by JavaScript (and numerous JavasScript libraries such as jQuery). For that all you need is a developer friendly browser. I'd suggest one of:

* Firefox - with the FireBug extension
* Google Chrome/Chromium - with there developer tools

On the server side if your doing anything with the data you'll need something more than static HTML files. Pretty much anything can create web-pages on the fly using CGI. The web server passes the request to program and the program spits out some HTML to stdout which the web-server dutifully sends back ( ... )

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davidwake January 13 2011, 12:23:53 UTC
Lazarus seems to do the trick, even installing here on the work computer. It's a bit buggy in the debugging, but I suspect that's because work computer security said "Noooo!" to a .dll. I've manage to write the "Do not press this button again" program.

As for web programming, thanks for the advice. I have a gander at the links. I really need some hand-holding (I loathe the lower slopes of the learning curve) and I need to decide what I want to program on the web. And, more importantly, why.

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davidwake January 14 2011, 18:05:52 UTC
Oh, twiddle! It doesn't work on my home computer. I get a "External: SIGSEBV" debugging error. The Lazarus website, well complicated in its forum comments, suggest this might be Bit Defender objecting. It's [rude word] Vista, probably, but I've no idea how to solve it.

Ho hum.

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davidwake January 14 2011, 18:23:04 UTC
Spoke too soon.

It doesn't work on my home computer. I get a "External: SIGSEBV" debugging error. The Lazarus website, well complicated in its forum comments, suggest this might be Bit Defender objecting. It's [rude word] Vista, probably, but I've no idea how to solve it.

Ho hum.

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davidwake January 16 2011, 14:16:21 UTC
Woo who!!!

It was Bit Defender messing up Lazarus, which I can't seem to switch off, but it has a game mode. Clearly computing has now detected that I don't do any serious programming anymore, but instead I'm only playing.

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davidwake January 16 2011, 18:12:04 UTC
Thanks for that link to Lazarus. I finally got it to work and I've rewritten my datastick to harddisc program ('cos I hate Microsoft's stupid ignore properties checkbox). It'll take a while to get back into it, but this is exactly what I wanted.

I shall take a breather before attempting web stuff I think.

Many thanks again.

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