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djpsyche November 4 2010, 13:36:32 UTC
I fall on the side of if you can't afford to live someplace expensive then move. In the States, when I lost my job, I lost my place to live and had to couch surf and even stayed in a homeless shelter for a while. Hello, moving into a less exclusive neighbourhood is SO far from having to couch surf or live in a homeless shelter. Tough luck mate but there are lots of people -with jobs- living in the less exclusive areas, what's your beef with joining them?

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green_badger November 4 2010, 13:41:10 UTC
Come to think of it the whole gentrification argument doesn't really work in London, where there are always really poor areas smack next to really rich ones. xxx

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suicideally November 4 2010, 13:47:00 UTC
You're thinking about this from an individual standpoint - the problem is that neighbourhoods become socially non-integrated if only one demographic is able to live in the area.

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pinksarah November 4 2010, 14:23:53 UTC
I agree that ghettos of rich and poor is definitely not the way forwards but how on earth do you stop some people sitting on the dole for generations and living in really nice places that everyone else pays for (and possibly can;t afford themselves)? Surely that isn't OK either?
Trying to unpick how to have a system where effort is rewarded and genuine hardship is off-set by the state without the flipside of people working the system seems nigh on impossible.

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bluekieran November 4 2010, 14:38:28 UTC
I don't care about people getting shit they don't deserve, but certainly we (as a country) can't afford to pay for anyone's luxuries anymore.

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spoox November 5 2010, 00:17:46 UTC
You make that sound like a bad thing!

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bluekieran November 5 2010, 09:49:12 UTC
That's 'cos we miss you, Spoox :)

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djpsyche November 5 2010, 13:19:02 UTC
Thank you Spoox! Yes I fail to see what is the inherent evil really. I think "let's pay poor people to live next to the rich people just so they can see what dole scum look like up close and personal" isn't a very good social goal OR use of tax money, really. Or am I missing something here?

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