Turn the lights out when you go.

[bluedogstrut]

I was kind of ticked that nobody bothered to let me know about CTRL-D. For about five minutes. That's when I realized something: I've stopped caring.

I joined the U(W) CSC in 1996, and in the last nine years I've watched it go from an organization full of programmers, sysadmins, and hardware geeks that regularly sent winning teams to

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CTRL-D

[holdenk]

Sorry about that, the idea that you wouldnt have read the announcement on the whiteboard totally slipped my mind.
I think the CSC has an opportunity to remake its self for the better this fall, but how that goes time will tell :-)

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[math_foo]

I think the CSC has the opportunity to remake itself every term. I hate saying it, because I am at university to act in as immature a manner as I can get away with; but the CSC needs to decide what it is it wants to be and have some kind of longterm plan.

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[holdenk]

Perhaps, but wit the way the executive is structured it makes having plans lasting beyond four months quite difficult to pull off. Personally I prefer the plan of just doing more stuff, that is whenever there is an opportunity for the club to do something interesting we should take it. But whatever.

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[bluedogstrut]

the CSC needs to decide what it is it wants to be and have some kind of longterm plan.

There's no such animal as "the CSC". The club is an organization on paper. It can't decide anything. It can't plan anything. That's my point. Saying that "the club" will remake itself or "the club" has to decide something is meaningless.

It is the people, the individual members, that do, plan, decide, and remake. Until the club members recognize this and start both demanding more from and contributing to the club, nothing's going to change.

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[math_foo]

Obviously, I refrained from using "we" because a)It is unwise to use 'we' without knowing who 'we' is and b)I wanted this change in the club to be democratic and involve all members. Upon further reflection, I am starting think that forming a cabal for the purpose of reforming might not be a bad idea.

However, you make a very good point, as long as everyone thinks of it as 'the CSC' and not 'the CSC of which I am member and must take some responsibility for' things will either remain the same or get worse.

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[bluedogstrut]

IIRC, forming a cabal for the purpose of reforming was tried once already. It doesn't seem to have done much good, but then that's not really surprising. Replacing one entrenched group of idle people with another isn't helpful.

You don't need a cabal. You just need eleven people (ten to sign a petition, one plus the exec to make quorum, and seven of those to vote with you) and you can get anything you want out of the CSC.