boiling a frog

Nov 26, 2010 15:07

I wasn't really planning to go to a protest on Wednesday. I knew there was something happening at Goldsmiths but I didn't have the details; I thought they might be occupying the library or something. If I'd known what was going to happen I'd have brought food and water and a flask of tea and worn more jumpers. All the jumpers. But whatever was ( Read more... )

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bateleur November 26 2010, 16:06:32 UTC
My faith in doing things through the proper channels is dwindling by the minute.

The question, really, is not whether one ought to have faith in the "proper channels" so much as what approaches or mechanisms could theoretically replace them. We apparently had a fair, democratic election in which tens of millions of people voted for "yes, please shaft lots of people and put the money in my pocket". Faced with that situation, I don't really have a plan.

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bluedevi November 26 2010, 16:11:05 UTC
Tens of millions, yes, but far from a majority...

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bateleur November 26 2010, 16:14:24 UTC
Absolutely, but for me that isn't actually what matters. What matters is the massive resistance to doing anything good. There's so much stuff that's tricky enough to solve with everyone working together... but no, instead we've got a substantial percentage literally pulling the wrong way!

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bluedevi November 26 2010, 16:18:22 UTC
This is basically what I'm thinking when I'm being flabbergasted at the Tea Party. A feeling of not even living on the same planet.

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bateleur November 26 2010, 16:24:31 UTC
Yes! Exactly!

(They get my facepalm icon... but only because I don't have a worse one!)

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lanfykins November 26 2010, 16:30:49 UTC
Yes. Their mental world is so far from mine, there just seems to be no shared basis for communication. And where do you go with that?!

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cardinalsin November 26 2010, 18:18:42 UTC
We apparently had a fair, democratic election in which tens of millions of people voted for "yes, please shaft lots of people and put the money in my pocket".

Do you think so? I don't think the current Government's policies were well trailed in the election, either in the formal manifestoes of the winning parties, or in their public utterances, or even in the themes of their campaigns. Indeed arguably many members of the Government pledged to do the opposite of what they're doing. So I don't think it's fair to blame the electorate for this, tempting as it is.

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bateleur November 26 2010, 18:23:22 UTC
I'm not tempted. I believe it because I've met these people.

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bluedevi November 26 2010, 18:27:41 UTC
What, all of them?

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muppethex November 27 2010, 16:34:45 UTC
What they voted for was the fresh faced young well spoken and positive guy(s) over the grumpy old cantankerous defensive guy. Policies were completely irrelevant and hardly mentioned in favour of procedural mud slinging and image conscious posing.

But that's the way visual media works now, nothing of substance.. it's all about personalities and conflict, nothing that can't fit into 15 seconds of video is reportable. I've gotten completely fed up with TV in general these days when even in shows about technology and science they have to bring some kind of spurious competition in let alone go into the more interesting technical details.

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bluedevi November 28 2010, 12:26:18 UTC
Ha, yes. Teach the controversy! This is especially annoying with things like evolution and climate science, where they think it has to be 'balanced' and get a second talking head in regardless of how flimsy their argument is.

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