Mmm, Meta...

[blubird_pie]

Swapping Spit and Satin Panties: Sexual Objectification of the Male Characters in Supernatural

Summary: Despite plausible allegations of sexism, women still like Supernatural. Also, Dean gets kissed by demons a lot. Maybe these things are related? And no, I’m not saying we just watch for the h/c and the pretty.
Word count: 2,000 yes I know

Comments

[nina1179]

I love this topic! Someone else did a meta pretty similar to this earlier this year and I've definitely noticed the sexual nature of possession too and its fun to see who else notices it and that it's not just me being creepy and over analyzing,even if the show didn't do it on purpose. The first time I felt a sexual assault vibe though it was really uncomfortable because it was the scene in Devil's Trap where John gets way into Deans space and hurts him from the inside out. Then I went back and there are just so many things that could be seen as sexual assault, even though it's not explicit or anything. There's Meg, the vampire kissing Dean, the demon (dean even says he was "violated with demon tongue"). Then there's less obvious examples and implications like Alistair's "pokes and prods", John and then in the future Grandpa getting all in Deans space and even sniffing him has uncomfortable connotations, and then there's all the verbal hits like agent Henrickson accusing John of inappropriate touching, the "angel condom" idea and Zach trying to convince Dean to say yes, Dean saying in curious case that their waiting for him to drop the soap, Sam's pain-filled sex with Ruby sure seems like her taking advantage, Sam's possesions, and I'm probably taking this too far but the Siren could have easily had his way had he not been killed. Wow... there are just soo many examples of sex and sexual terms being ugly and invasive against the guys to say that it is just the women who are victims in this show, everyone is! Sorry... that ended up being way longer and more scattered than I thought it would, you just got me thinking!

[blubird_pie]

Hey, I clearly don't mind long meta ;) I'm really glad that you found my post thought provoking! Don't suppose you have a link to that other meta? I'm interested in how someone else would approach this theme. I didn't really get into the YED's interaction with Dean, but I think that you're right about there being a sexual tone to it. I had also totally forgotten about Henrickson's accusation! Honestly, the incest theme in Show could be its whole own Freudian meta- like with the babysitter from last week's episode: some people are reading a relationship between her and John...and then Dean admits to having a crush on her. I'm super excited for tonight's episode!

Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate the feedback.

[nina1179]

I do actually!!! And interesting, I didn't think much about the babysitter but that's another funky detail. You're right, the incest theme in this show could fill out a whole book!
Anyways, here's the link:

http://chasingtides.livejournal.com/411989.html
and
http://chasingtides.livejournal.com/412937.html

There's two of them by the same person because she wanted to clarify her first post with her second one. There were some wanky responses but lots of interesting discussion too!

[blubird_pie]

Awesome, I'll go take a look! I have to say, I was super glad that all the discussion here has been respectful and intelligent. I know that this is a touchy subject on a lot of levels, but wank is bad for everybody.