Knock Knock

[blossomer]

Who's there?
Proselytizers.
Proselytizers who?
Fundamentalist christian fascist proselytizers who are taking over your country.

http://www.starcantdead.com/sketches/kissinghanksass.html

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[blossomer]

I've no doubt that there are some christian mystics who are not ridiculous, not in the least fundie, and who don't espouse the King James edition, and who think of Jesus as a message that each person can be as enlightened as Jesus, are working to manifest 'heaven' on Earth...

and I'm sure there are many many goodhearted christian people all over the world who hold a simple faith, wish ill on no one, love peace, and practice some very simple lay form of it through being as loving and forgiving as they can, and who may even vaguely grasp that there is that of God within the self, within all people. These are the people who intuit that God is Love, just simply, just like that, and may not even go to church.

I'd just really like to see an awakening, a greater faith placed within themselves, less power sent "above" and outside the self...I'd love to see all that simple laity get an intuition that they could be spiritually developing, getting closer and closer to the divine, and it seems to me to be a self-esteem thing, maybe, as to why they don't go deeper... but that's their business. For all we know, on the collective unconscious, this base of a simple heartfelt laity is fulfilling some much-needed thing. Even in tribal life, free of all modern oppression, not everyone was called to be a shaman/medicine person. The rest of the people raised energy at rituals. And I think that folks like the ones I'm talking about above, and there are many, do just that: they provide a great deal of energy in much the same way. They know true Love always wins, they want peace on Earth, they know vaguely that they are oppressed and they don't want to be but they are too afraid to even consider coming forth (and that changes ever so slowly, and we have a gentle, silent, invisible hand in that change, that empowerment), they know Nature is beautiful, and sense that it 'came from' the Divine... they want the Garden.

It's like natural energetic infrastructure, I think. As above, so below -- these are the often the people of the world who make the infrastructure, who labor for basic needs to be met (I'm talking needs that keep the world's life forms functioning, fed, bathed, safe, etc). On a non-physical level, a spiritual energetic level, they are doing this same thing.

[blossomer]

So what i'm saying is I think it's neo-christian fundamentalism, proselytizing, fascism, the stealing and subverting of this power in people, that's ridiculous, offensive, damaging.

But they're bringing in the darkest hour of Kali Yuga, and that's a part of bringing about the need and arrival of the Turn. They're Hitler, basically, but worse... Hitler's just the closest comparison that the world has known on a grand scale. Do you know, like Bush, Hitler heard 'god' telling him things, telling him which side of the car to get out of, that sort of thing.

After this it's going to be much better, and we're both cursed and blessed to be alive at this time. I think the blessed part faaaarrrr outweighs the cursed part, no matter how bad it gets before it gets wonderful.

[blossomer]

hehehe
I was thinking more about it when I woke up this morning, like how I think I may have come across as if I thought this big laity were less intelligent by saying that the faiths were simplistic. Rather what I mean to say is that the overlap of ideas of a great many people, the things on which they have consensus, are very simple, basic and are about love. I'd put my parents in this laity of people, any non-fundamentalists of any spiritual system, really, and lots of secular humanists (I think that's the term, you would know, for someone who may be atheistic or agnostic but have a loving, humanitarian worldview, that's secular humanism, right?)

Anyway, this is before coffee, so I don't know.

[blossomer]

Oh yeah.. I was thinking, this big energetic infrasctructure of the people is not something to be tapped like Earth energy, at one's fingertips, or feet, as it were. If anything, I think it moves us around more than we can move it around. Either that or it's equally reflexive, probably, each to each.. anyway, it's not the same thing as the collective unconscious, it's not 'spiritus mundi,' but it should have a name like these concepts have a name. It's not 'chicken soup for the soul,' or written at all.

I wonder if it exerts a judging effect.
I tend to doubt this, as from what I understand, post-death "life review" sessions (reported by people who've had NDEs) seem to have to do with whether the person broke their own ethical code rather than a collective moral one. This speaks very little for the 10 commandments.