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Jun 20, 2008 15:59

I do not relish this possibility.

I would have other work to attend to. But, I suppose, it may very well be an obligation.

Or, at least, it would be a favor asked for by the correct person.

How things will turn is close, now. There is no prediction to be made. Only waiting.

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 20:57:48 UTC
You're not getting involved in all this law and army stuff, are you?

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 20:59:48 UTC
I would hope not. I have other work.

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 21:09:51 UTC
So do I.

...I wish people would just let everyone go ahead and do whatever they're best at. Without acting like they're so much better for helping out all organized.

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 21:17:18 UTC
Some organization is necessary. To get large scale projects completed? Keep food supplies, water going? Electricity throughout the whole city? It isn't as simple as letting people 'do what they're best at'.

You favor Working Anarchy. It simply isn't sustainable - it requires that people, at their core, be good. Not just good, but extremely good. And that somehow, when a problem comes up, it will be taken care of with the effectiveness of an organized group.

A mob broke out over the death of a girl. Others could have gotten killed, just because people were lost in the hysteria of it all.

To have the sheer arrogance of 'I can handle every problem alone' is to lie to oneself. The same goes for 'Anyone starts trouble, it'll be dealt with. Don't worry.'

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 21:27:57 UTC
I don't think we have the time for this. People are just going to get mad and have too many ideas about who should be in charge and how we should do this and that, and people are forgetting all about just surviving.

...I promised Yorda I wouldn't get in any fight with them. And so I don't want to say anything that's going to get people 'in charge' all huffy. But I don't want anyone to just set up the way I gotta live for me. It's bad enough scientists just dumped people here without a choice.

I don't want to be anybody's puppet.

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 21:40:01 UTC
Ideally, the organization is for just that. Surviving. Getting the essentials of life working, keeping them working. Having a Police force. Leaving it to whoever would like to work on it, whenever they'd like to, is a fool's decision. Say someone unqualified wanted to work with the water tower. Help build it, distribute the water, have control of the supply. I'm quite certain you'd not favor that.

A government provides protections and essentials in exchange for cooperation from those in that government. To want everything a government gives but not to cooperate in it - well, that's simple, then. You don't work with the government. You lose everything it gives, but that is how a contract - a social contract - works. It doesn't require a signing on the dotted line. It's quite self-evident. And this is not done out of spite but simply because cannot run without people to support it ( ... )

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 21:57:37 UTC
I'm fine with 'don't kill anybody' rules.

I can live with that.

I don't want daily marching orders. Or anyone saying all the stuff we've got belongs in one inventory that gets to be babysat by some stuffy suited prissyboys.

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 22:03:45 UTC
Someone needs to maintain inventory. Or would you prefer someone wishing to attempt a ransom of sorts try to take it all, starve us for resources and food? Or to just take what they like, use it for whatever they want, no matter how much others may need it?

Your system, again, requires that everyone, at their core, be extremely good. Working Anarchy.

As for marching orders? There is no draft. You don't want to work for anyone? Then don't volunteer. No one has gone into Gohl and told you all to sign up.

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 22:10:44 UTC
Well we've done just fine up till now without one! Even without being super-good.

It makes it sound like we'll all be here a lot longer than anyone was planning.

...what's the farthest you've been out so far, past the edge of the city?

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 22:24:14 UTC
No we haven't. Renji's slaughter of the animals and trying to bring in massive amounts of meat also brought in the reavers. We had a mob almost mere moments ago. There have been killings, kidnappings, blown up buildings - I could go on.

We have not been fine. We've been adequate. To have faith that someone wouldn't take advantage of an unguarded collection of resources? I had no idea you were so optimistic.

You think short-term. If the scientists are intending to keep us here to repopulate the planet, then the rules change, don't they? I'm planning 10 years in advance.

I didn't measure the miles.

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 22:49:10 UTC
I don't. I'm not optimistic. I just don't trust anybody in official charge any better. Do you actually trust anybody to run this place any better than everyone could on their own?

Anyway, the Scientists could just get rid of them whenever they feel like, and the whole thing would collapse all over again.

...how many days out? It's so crazy for such a small city to be out in the middle of nowhere. I mean the food they make has gotta me mostly all fish, at best. There's too...far too few of stuff here, for it to stand alone. There's no factories here that make all this food that's in the cans, all the other stuff!

...the labels. I'm still wondering, where are these places on the labels. There's no maps of Fortuna you've found anywhere? Nowhere?

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 22:51:50 UTC
Yes, because I equally distrust the few ruling as much as I distrust the rule of the Mob. However, at least with the few, they can be replaced with new figures as is necessary.

No maps. Not yet.

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 23:04:08 UTC
At this rate, 'as necessary' might be every week or so.

Have you lost range at all, with the communicators? We didn't, and we were four days out by the wind.

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bloodyheartland June 20 2008, 23:10:43 UTC
Because you and others are never satisfied, despite the fact that we are in a desperate situation that requires compromise and sacrifice. You want freedom to do all as you like, but also all the good that comes with organization.

It's as I told you. You can't have both.

No.

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not_riku_thx June 20 2008, 23:19:22 UTC
Well...I'll work harder for all the independence as I can manage, even if it means giving up some of the cushy organized benefits.

I think all my friends would be living down on Marshall Street too, if they didn't also already feel the same way.

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darkvonkarma June 20 2008, 23:36:40 UTC
A pity you are not interested in a more political position within Discedo. You seem quite well versed in such things.

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