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[bloodwillflow]

so would you be mad if i told you that i think gay marriage is ok and there is nothing wrong AT ALL about it?

in the words of puffy "dont chu hate me now"

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[emeraldinhereye]

well obviously im not going to mad at you Nathaniel, and what im about to say is not ment to offend anyone. first of all i DO believe it is wrong mainly because in the bible God says it wrong and im a firm believer of what God says. also marriage was specially designed for a man and woman, ever notice thier private parts? it isnt natural for girls and girls to have sex, and it isnt natural for guys and guys to have sex, our bodies werent designed that way, thats why the same sex cant naturally have children together. I know the whol argument is that "love is love" and by making gay marriages illegal we are taking away someones right to love someone, but seriously whats next? pretty soon men are going to want to marry thier nieces, and MOTHERS are going to want to marry thier DAUGHTERS. and we look at that and say "eww thats sick and wrong" but 50 years ago thats what people said about gay marriages, but now the society accepts it. so in 50 years is it going to be okay for a man to marry his son??? "love is love" right? and then after thats what next?? whose to stop people from wanting to marry an animal? I know it sounds far fetched, but back in the day, gay marriages sounded far fetched. On the day when you turn on the news and it says that a man is fighting for the right to marry his dog, are you going to say "love is Love" let him marry the dog. and I know your thinking that there is no comparrison from marrying the same sex to marrying an animal, and your right there isnt really, the point is, where are we going to draw the line? God designed sex and marriage for a man and a woman, people are trying so very hard to pervert that

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9. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

note the extreme sarcasm.

[emeraldinhereye]

yes im aware of that, but people will argue that it doesnt matter because they are "in love" and we shouldnt take away thier rights to love each other. thats all im saying. its like the illegal thing...illegals and california can get drivers licenses and jobs and they can vote, but they arent even citizens, doesnt that seem a little backwards and strange? the world is legalizing crazy things that dont make sense, so who knows whats next?

[undermindthis]

i agree with you.
the bible says every reason why.

[emeraldinhereye]

thank you, and yes it does , God loves everyone so much, and im convinced that he has a man for every woman and a woman for every man, thats the beautiful way that he designed things <3

[smothered]

So I don't fit into God's scheme cos I am gay?

[emeraldinhereye]

no thats not what it means, God loves you just as much as he loves me or anyone else

[smothered]

But I shouldn't be allowed to get married cos my parts don't fit, in other words I can't procreate... right?

Does it have anything to do with procreation, or just simply the fact that someone I love doesn't have a penis?

So that's why it's ok for the US to deny me my right to marrying someone I love? To take away 1,062 privlages that a heterosexual couple are entitled to... because the bible says my love doesn't make sense?

I'm not a Christian. I am not a Catholic. I am a Deist, and from my understanding God is an all-knowing being who accepts people for what they are... but I am just not allowed to marry.

Luckily I like boys too.

[emeraldinhereye]

im not trying to offend you or anyone else, nathaniel asked for our opinions and i gave mine. and Yes I do believe that God does say that it is wrong, and no its not wrong because the person you love does not have a penis, the reason why the person you love does not have a penis is because its wrong, you had it backwards. I do not have all the answers and I will never claim that I do

[smothered]

You weren't offending me at all. I am really interested in what you have to say.

I asked you questions and wanted to hear you voice your opinions.

[emeraldinhereye]

well thank you, im glad that we cant respect each other, if you still want to continue this conversation i am open to it, I have a feeling that we will never change each others minds, but I would love to discuss and get each other views, maybe learn to understand each other better
again thank you for not getting upset with me, and i am truely sorry if im coming off as judgemental

[smothered]

I wasn't discussing the topic so much to change your mind. Just wanted to voice my opinions, and I am glad you were able to voice yours.

You didn't come off as judgemental.

[emeraldinhereye]

well thank you, anytime you want to talk, im very open, you seem like a kind person who i could have a friendly debate/conversation with

[imnotfreakinemo]

I dont mean to be rude or for this to be an attack at you at all...but this is why i left the church... you do realize christianity isnt the only religion right? granted we believe were right based on faith its entirely possible that were not right, and reguardless of all that some religions believe its good to kill people so are those people right in doing so because their God says so? no...then why is it right to tell people they cant be married because our God said so....this country seems to have forgotten that the US was made to flee religious persicution now we still do it to this day without even thinking about it....does this bother anyone else? Your jump to marriage with animals is an obvious extreme as you said, and the difference between that and this is the animals wouldnt be giving their consent...and the difference between this and marrying a relative is this isnt causing harm, where interbreeding causes the children to have birth deffects... and as much as you tried to down play it, Love is love, and no offence but youve obviously never been in love. thats not an attack on you, please dont get me wrong, but once youve truly been in love you will understand that theres nothing greater than love no matter who it be for.... i guess ill leave it at that....please dont hate me, this is just my opinion...

[emeraldinhereye]

nope I dont hate you at all, in fact i love discussing things with you. and I do respect your opinion. First of all I wanted to apologize for whatever was done to turn you off from the church, and I want you to know that what im about to say is me being 100% honest and im aware that you probly wont agree with what im saying. I personly do not see christianity as a religion, and I know that maybe that saying has become somewhere cliche but i really dont. Christianity is believeing that Jesus Christ was the Messiah and having a personal relationship with him, what other religion offers that? and you made your comment about freedom of religion and that thats what our country was based on. our country was also based on christian principles, christian principles that state that marriage should be between a man a woman thats why 100 years ago the thought of gay marriages was obserd, it wasnt even something people took seriously it was too far fetched. Thats why im giving the animal example and the daughter with mother examples, right now those things seem extremely far fetched, but whose to say that in 100 years it wont be legalized? i mean even though we see it as gross and dangerous, in the future people might say that we are discriminating against them and not giving them the right to love. and with your "youve never been in love comment" your probably right, but i used to have a gay friend who thought he was totally in love with his partner. My friend has become a christian and no longer practices being gay, but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a temptation every once and a while, its just something that he daily has to ask God to help him with. I have had discussions with him in the past about when he was a homosexual and asking him if it was something you where born with or what,a nd he said that he has come to the conclusion that no one is gay they are just confused. Satan has all differnt ways to tempt people, Satans biggest goal is to lead us away from God and he will do whatever it takes. as the society becomes more and more accepting with differnt things he needs to think of differnt ways to tempt people. For example, 50 years ago it was unacceptable for sex to be shoen on tv or in the movies, or even for women to show cleavage or stomach, but now you turn on the tv and you see a victorias secret comercial, and its basically porn on your tv, or you go the movies and every one on the screen is naked and having sex, our society has gotten so numb to these things and it just seems normal to us, so satan had to figure out new ways to tempt us, so peopple start to have lustful feelings towards the same sex, and once our society becomes numb to that..who knows whats next?

[imnotfreakinemo]

Yay someone that debates rather than says no your stupid...people like you are far and few between...what turned me off to the church was that my dad is or was a pastor and i saw how the inner workings went on...its an ugly place and unfortunately it wasnt just his church, we went to many churchs and we were even on TBN (the christian tv station if you dont know) quite a few times and i realized they were all run the same...for a place thats bases so much of itself on acceptance they were some of the most judgemental people ive ever met...but dont get me wrong there is a huge difference between me giving up on God and me giving up on church...i have alot of personal issues with god, but i havent given up on him nore do i believe he has on me...I still stick to my point that an animal couldnt give its consent and that inner-breeding causes birth defects, but i understand the point your tryin to make... and your right, the country was made on christian values...but keep in mind the times, they were escaping religious persecution for the first time, no matter how hard they tried to be impartial they had the bible shoved down their throats their whole life...dont you think that just maybe if they could have started a country that truly was free to any beliefs they would have? and your also right that gay marriages were just not thought of back then, but did you know thats because they tortured and killed anyone they suspected of being gay? much like a witch only with mush more gruesom tactics...if you were gay back then would you try to be married? and it was also considered not so long ago disgusting for blacks and whites to marry, was that a bad thing? is that something that should have been taken away? speaking of which, most of the slave owners were christian, does that not prove that christians make mistakes? I also have many gay friends and every single one of them has told me they wouldnt be gay if they could change it...your right, it could just be the devil tempting them, but if the devil had you wrapped that tightly would you be able to escape?