Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."blee001April 22 2009, 17:16:38 UTC
i think wall street does run the country/world. i have to be honest and say that i jumped through the vid and then segued into the Bilderberg vid, so I missed any references to jews and fema deth camps, and i'm not saying the whole video is the UNQUESTIONABLE truth. Just that a lot of it does make sense.
like the fact that i dont think it matters who we "vote" for, its not like we have a choice, these people have money and are chosen before we get to "vote"
Ruling has always been about dividing and conquering. We're divided by meaningless shit like religion and politics. And they use religion to run the politics.
it's not right v. left but that they're all just a bunch of bankers and lawyers looking to get rich and using any tool to do it...
if we weren't trained from birth about RELIGION, the whole "HOPE" "CHANGE" thing, the BLIND FAITH that came along with it wouldn't be so easy to pull off. I'm not being cynical, justrealistic.
Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."squidb0iApril 22 2009, 17:54:22 UTC
Certainly, some small nuggets of truth. Surrounded by a thick shell of tinfoil hat conspiracy theory. Those that have the gold make the rules, as always.
Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."blee001April 22 2009, 19:24:59 UTC
its not "conspiracy theory" though, its a conspiracy reality, it's what's happening.
The reason it'll continue is because there are well meaning people who think they are part of a democracy, and who think they are choosing, when there actually isn't a choice...its two sides of the same party.
+ watch the bilderberg vid, also interesting... they admit in the open to "the conspiracy", "get us used to it...its the normal way of the world" etc..."
desensitize the public, make them believe thats how it is and they can't change it...
Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."squidb0iApril 23 2009, 00:43:03 UTC
After careful analysis over the last year or so, I have come to the conclusion that the truth-nuggets in Alex Jone's alternate reality mind-virus are few and far between, like chunks of corn in a drunks vomit.
Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."blee001April 23 2009, 03:15:26 UTC
don't get TOO ANGRY ;) obiously i'm not following it blindly, but something tells me you just don't like alex jones ;) (btw i didnt see anything about jewish conspiracy in that film, the global warming bit is bullshit too)
im not adopting his view, but i do see that we only have one party and people driving with their little obama stickers somehow feel better like we achieved something by picking the more charming guy.
Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."squidb0iApril 23 2009, 06:13:15 UTC
I'm not angry. It'll be readily apparent if that happens. ;]
2012 Mayan Apocalypse. Bilderberginati. Chemtrails. Engrams and body thetans. Imaginary sky daddy.
I see a lot of this tinfoil hat BS thrown around as if it were true.
More often than not, when scratched even superficially, it becomes readily apparent that, as I described above, the conspiracy theory turns out to be a whole mess of sensationalist bullshit that coalesced around some minor nugget or two of truth.
It can be amusing here and there, I guess, so, you know, enjoy. I've said my bit. More would be dickish.
Re: "...it's disturbing to see well meaning people fall for propaganda..."blee001April 23 2009, 19:01:22 UTC
I hate to continue this at the risk of becoming an asshole myself (:S) but after all your posts i don't actually know what you're going on about! you seem to have reacted to alex jones specifically and we're not actually discussing the same subject. I'm talking about the transparency of our political system and whether we "elect" our politicians who work for us or whether we're just made to feel like we elect them to make ourselves feel calm/sedated and they actually work for corporations etc and you're going on about... chemtrails, mayan apocalypse, jews... ?? (off topic but..you don't think chemtrails exist
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Sky is blue. Water is wet.squidb0iApril 24 2009, 01:29:55 UTC
Macchiaveli was prophetic. As was Orwell.
Corporations are far too involved in the political process.
Obviously offshore banking exists.
Conspiracy and collusion happen daily.
Propaganda is omnipresent.
Bilderberg exists. Much of what has been attributed to it is conspiracy theory. Much gold = many rules made/bent. Illuminati level power is a pipe dream, too many other actors.
Honest politicians are similarly mythological.
The system is being gamed by big players with lots of money, but it's still a system. Disengaging from it means those assholes with the money win, because that's what they want you to do.
BREAD AND CIRCUSESblee001April 25 2009, 21:34:01 UTC
its all bread and circuses...
i voted since I was allowed to vote and even in the last election, and i never understood how people didn't want to vote. or what they meant when they said the vote doesnt really count...
But over the last few months I feel like things became clarified and I realized the parties actually work together and it's our human instinct to want to be on a "team" and feel part of the game which are elections.
BREAD AND CIRCUSES
Then the teams go back to washington and begin another 4 years of bullshit that won't change anything SIGNIFICANT for the better, while they keep us occupied with
BREAD AND CIRCUSES
we can agree to disagree, I will read your reply but I'll stop replying as this is probably better discussed in person over wine ;)
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FEMA death camps.
Black helicopters.
Sociofasciluminati.
International *cough*jewish*cough* financiers that run the world.
Alex Jones is a half-assed rightard hack.
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The Bilderberg Group
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0yU37mHf_M&feature=related
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like the fact that i dont think it matters who we "vote" for, its not like we have a choice, these people have money and are chosen before we get to "vote"
Ruling has always been about dividing and conquering. We're divided by meaningless shit like religion and politics. And they use religion to run the politics.
it's not right v. left but that they're all just a bunch of bankers and lawyers looking to get rich and using any tool to do it...
if we weren't trained from birth about RELIGION, the whole "HOPE" "CHANGE" thing, the BLIND FAITH that came along with it wouldn't be so easy to pull off. I'm not being cynical, justrealistic.
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Surrounded by a thick shell of tinfoil hat conspiracy theory.
Those that have the gold make the rules, as always.
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The reason it'll continue is because there are well meaning people who think they are part of a democracy, and who think they are choosing, when there actually isn't a choice...its two sides of the same party.
+ watch the bilderberg vid, also interesting... they admit in the open to "the conspiracy", "get us used to it...its the normal way of the world" etc..."
desensitize the public, make them believe thats how it is and they can't change it...
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But hey, to each their own.
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im not adopting his view, but i do see that we only have one party and people driving with their little obama stickers somehow feel better like we achieved something by picking the more charming guy.
again, i will definitely be watching more on THE BILDERBERG GROUP, (i dont think that one was alex jones ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0yU37mHf_M&feature=related
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It'll be readily apparent if that happens. ;]
2012 Mayan Apocalypse.
Bilderberginati.
Chemtrails.
Engrams and body thetans.
Imaginary sky daddy.
I see a lot of this tinfoil hat BS thrown around as if it were true.
More often than not, when scratched even superficially, it becomes readily apparent that, as I described above, the conspiracy theory turns out to be a whole mess of sensationalist bullshit that coalesced around some minor nugget or two of truth.
It can be amusing here and there, I guess, so, you know, enjoy. I've said my bit. More would be dickish.
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Corporations are far too involved in the political process.
Obviously offshore banking exists.
Conspiracy and collusion happen daily.
Propaganda is omnipresent.
Bilderberg exists. Much of what has been attributed to it is conspiracy theory. Much gold = many rules made/bent. Illuminati level power is a pipe dream, too many other actors.
Honest politicians are similarly mythological.
The system is being gamed by big players with lots of money, but it's still a system. Disengaging from it means those assholes with the money win, because that's what they want you to do.
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i voted since I was allowed to vote and even in the last election, and i never understood how people didn't want to vote. or what they meant when they said the vote doesnt really count...
But over the last few months I feel like things became clarified and I realized the parties actually work together and it's our human instinct to want to be on a "team" and feel part of the game which are elections.
BREAD AND CIRCUSES
Then the teams go back to washington and begin another 4 years of bullshit that won't change anything SIGNIFICANT for the better, while they keep us occupied with
BREAD AND CIRCUSES
we can agree to disagree, I will read your reply but I'll stop replying as this is probably better discussed in person over wine ;)
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