ah, but if he really was the son of god (big if, but we are talking within the context of the belief system) then i imagine he could have dealt with the armed soldiers easily enough.
the idea is that god made the sacrifice for us, since blood sacrifice was somehow built into the system from the beginning. all the way back to Cain and Able. for some reason, god is very blood thirsty. the hebrew tradtions that christianity has its basis in are filled with blood. the ancient hebrews did an ass load of animal sacrifice. blood was a major factor in all of their atonement rituals. it then follows that a blood acrifice on the level of god sacrifice his own son could be construed as enough to bridge the gap between man and god that was formed at "the fall".
as far as the suicide thing goes, i don't think it would count as suiced any more than giving your life to save your child (or anyone else, really) would be.
i do agree about the cross thing. Bill Hicks covered that rather well.
then again, what do you use as a symbol, an empty tomb?
I do admit to stealing the cross idea from Bill Hicks on that one.
I like your reasoning and arguments, though. God does seem to be very bloodthirsty, but did seem to mellow out a little between the old and new testaments. I guess they say having kids does that to you.
well, there was 400 years between the last book written in the old testement and the events that supposed;y take place in the new testament. that means 400 years of god not telling anyone to kill anyone. so humans killed each other anyway. :)
The texts included in The Bible (as we know it) were selected and compiled by the Catholic church. They are not the only documentation of the events they cover. They are not the be-all-and-end-all of qualified information on the subject. They were intended as a reference for priests (the only ones who could read them when it was first suggested) and harnessed later as a tool to educate the masses, who had become literate in their own right. The Bible is more like a Christian's Cliff Notes. You shouldn't assume that nothing happened in between. That's just ignorant.
the idea is that god made the sacrifice for us, since blood sacrifice was somehow built into the system from the beginning. all the way back to Cain and Able. for some reason, god is very blood thirsty. the hebrew tradtions that christianity has its basis in are filled with blood. the ancient hebrews did an ass load of animal sacrifice. blood was a major factor in all of their atonement rituals. it then follows that a blood acrifice on the level of god sacrifice his own son could be construed as enough to bridge the gap between man and god that was formed at "the fall".
as far as the suicide thing goes, i don't think it would count as suiced any more than giving your life to save your child (or anyone else, really) would be.
i do agree about the cross thing. Bill Hicks covered that rather well.
then again, what do you use as a symbol, an empty tomb?
The Buddy Christ, of course.
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I like your reasoning and arguments, though. God does seem to be very bloodthirsty, but did seem to mellow out a little between the old and new testaments. I guess they say having kids does that to you.
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