Arizona Governor: Driver's Liscence isn't sufficient proof of citizenship

[blackflame2180]

According to Arizona's governor, in Arizona, once this bill goes into effect, local law enforcement has a right to detain you on suspicion of being an illegal alien until specific Federal Agencies intervene: Even if you're carrying your ID with you.

So yeah, apparently under the new Arizona law, your Driver's license (you know, the primary form of

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[mediaprophet]

Reasonable suspicion is a legal term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_suspicion

[blackflame2180]

Yes it is, but it's an incredibly low standard

[mediaprophet]

The reasonable person standard would be violated by racial profiling. There is not a substantial and reasonable chance that anyone in AZ who speaks Spanish and has brown skin is an illegal alien.

Police anywhere and always only need probable cause to arrest you -- for anything. Suspicion that you own a fake ID in any state is grounds for confiscation and arrest.

[blackflame2180]

Actually, many of the Arizona legislature have argued that racial profiling is fair game under the law they authored. More, racial profiling continues to occur despite it's exclusion from the reasonable suspicion standard. Proving that racial profiling occurred is a bar that continues to be raised through the case law

[mediaprophet]

Reasonable suspicion requires there to be a good chance. The racial profiling challenge is always that only a small number of Latinos are illegal residents. Similar to your mode of dress -- only a small number of people in paint-stained coveralls are illegal immigrants. I agree that any law that forces you to wait in jail and then go to court over that BS is awful.

[blackflame2180]

Well, right, but as I mentioned, Illinois v. Gates establishes "substantial chance" or "fair probability