SPN 11.17 Red Meat

Apr 25, 2016 19:56

SPN 11.17 Red Meat

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borgmama1of5 April 26 2016, 04:19:20 UTC
It's very interesting that Corbin's motivation--save his wife--and Dean's motivation--save his brother--are very much alike...and the Winchester's have done some not-very-good things to save each other, but we forgive them...is it because the consequences of what the boys have done are so hugely global that we don't feel it the same way as watching one person killing another to survive? Or is it just that Sam and Dean get a pass? If Corbin had killed a random hunter, would we have cared?

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blackcat333_99 April 28 2016, 00:02:41 UTC
Hmm, good question. I think in Sam and Dean's case, speaking for myself, it matters that when they do not-so-good things to save each other, it's not a direct act of evil. Dean's first deal hurt himself only -- directly. The impact on Sam and the path Sam spiraled off as a result was indirect and in part became part of Sam's choices. Sam released Lucifer... but Lucifer is responsible for his own kills, not Sam. Not directly. When Cas released the Leviathans.. again there is a pattern of the damage coming from something bad being released, but the evil being done isn't directly done by Sam and Dean. Now with the Darkness and all... They know there will be consequences, dire consequences, but it seems a step removed from directly strangling or shooting or killing, etc in the name of saving the other. We have seen them torture/kill something evil, but again... never to my memory someone who was purely innocent. Not directly. They are the collateral. It is a small distinction that doesn't absolve them of the responsibility for ( ... )

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freya922 April 27 2016, 11:45:32 UTC
Really insightful and beautifully written review; I hadn't even picked up on some of the parallels and nuances.

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blackcat333_99 April 28 2016, 00:03:03 UTC
Thank you!

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adelheide April 27 2016, 15:01:46 UTC
This ep wasn't just a h/c fest. There was a lot going on and you nailed down so much of it.

I like the enormous mental discipline Dean exhibits, even if he has to take a knee in the woods.

I like Smart Michelle. She immediately knew something was wrong with Corbin and wasn't just willing to hug her new husband and ignore it. She was also Strong Michelle, especially at the end, and that is not something we see a lot. The Winchesters come in and save the day. But it's often messy and there are people left behind.

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blackcat333_99 April 28 2016, 00:05:01 UTC
I also really like Michelle. She felt real, you know? I would like to see her again some day, hopefully recovering and putting her life back together. The actress playing her did a great job in conveying all the trauma and pain and yet strength and goodness within this woman.

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