Truly appalling and saddening, what is British education coming to?

Jun 06, 2007 18:25

I love England more than any place on earth, but they need to do something FAST about this. Almost makes me want to become a history teacher over there. When the line from political correctness to utter illogical stupidity is crossed, it's beyond unacceptable, it's dangerous. What a mess they've gotten into.

From the Telegraph

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savageparrot March 5 2010, 11:09:16 UTC
It's primary school. They definitely cover all those things in secondary school so why break their spirits earlier than you need? It's not like they are not getting taught it, they just aren't getting taught before the age of 11. I can't see the the point in teaching history that bleak to kids so young anyway, let them stay kids a little longer...

Hello by the way. I just bumped into you via the magic of random journal.

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biteythevampire March 5 2010, 11:32:19 UTC
Hi there, thanks for stopping by ( ... )

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savageparrot March 5 2010, 12:04:35 UTC
To be honest I'm always kind of suspicious about this type of article anyway because they love to create drama from nothing. The holocaust is always going to be on the syllabus, if for no other reason that that teachers can just put on one of the many documentaries on the subject and save their breath ( ... )

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biteythevampire March 5 2010, 12:43:01 UTC
If children of 8 already know "all about Hitler" then there would be no point in schools waiting to address him and the holocaust for after primary school ( ... )

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savageparrot March 5 2010, 13:12:54 UTC
I don't think they need protection I just don't see a problem with trying. You don't need to repeat the same topic to repeat the same methods and principles which are what causes people to think critically.

I may not have a fully objective perspective on this though as both my parents are history teachers so when it came time to actually cover things at school I generally already knew all about it from them.

They aren't erasing anything they just aren't getting to it until later. It's not like not eating your vegetables it's like eating them last. However it is your journal so I will concede the floor.

We'll agree to disagree :)

On a sideways and only slightly related note are your schools still teaching the propaganda based 'woo america is great' syllabus or have they now started teaching proper history?

Mind if I friend you? I'm not usually this argumentative.

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biteythevampire March 5 2010, 14:27:15 UTC
Friending is fine, and arguments are fine as long as they remain respectful.

That's good your parents took the initiative to try to teach you things before they were addressed at your school.

Are you Jewish? If you aren't then "They aren't erasing anything" is a pretty bold statement to make. Deciding that certain events are more relevant than others to cover in a world history classroom, and then presenting as neutral IS erasing. I'm not sure you really understood what I said in the past paragraph of that comment.

I have been out of the US public school system for 7 yrs but I am assuming that similarly to Britain's methods, not much has changed. Teaching anything that would not suggest the US as the most amazing and best country EVER would be unheard of in many places. Some fauxgressive schools might be teacing kids how the US is the worst country ever. I would like to see a school system that teaches "proper history," I don't think one exists yet, sadly.

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savageparrot March 5 2010, 15:39:01 UTC
"Deciding that certain events are more relevant than others to cover in a world history classroom, and then presenting as neutral IS erasing. I'm not sure you really understood what I said in the past paragraph of that comment ( ... )

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biteythevampire March 6 2010, 00:37:54 UTC
"They do teach it they just teach it later ( ... )

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savageparrot March 7 2010, 00:31:30 UTC
lol at your sister's history teacher, clearly not a real historian :)

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