Upright Biped re Eugene Koonin
в контексте подсчёта вероятности реализации натуралистического сценария происхождения жизни.
What was that fella’s name that tried to put forth the math on a non-ID origin of life? I remember that he had to figure in (what he openly admitted) were incredibly generous, even comical, assumptions into his calculations. If I remember correctly, he ended up concluding that actual physical reality would require an infinite multiverse just to get the needle to move. All this, coming from a recognized expert in computational biology; a committed materialist who is regularly invited to peer-review OoL papers submitted for publication into the scientific literature, not to mention being some big-shot lead investigator at some prominent research organization. I can’t remember his name, but it sounded something like “Eugene Koonin”, or something like that. I wonder if any of the ID critics have ever followed up on that? I wonder if those kinds of calculations actually mean anything to materialists?
Обсуждение здесь.
Американский биолог Евгений Кунин
И, собственно, слова самого Е.Кунина по поводу текущего состояния в области натуралистических моделей происхождения жизни:
Despite many interesting results to its credit, when judged by the straightforward criterion of reaching (or even approaching) the ultimate goal, the origin of life field is a failure - we still do not have even a plausible coherent model, let alone a validated scenario, for the emergence of life on Earth. Certainly, this is due not to a lack of experimental and theoretical effort, but to the extraordinary intrinsic difficulty and complexity of the problem. A succession of exceedingly unlikely steps is essential for the origin of life, from the synthesis and accumulation of nucleotides to the origin of translation; through the multiplication of probabilities, these make the final outcome seem almost like a miracle.' [Подчёркивание моё -- mns2012].
Источник:
What was that fella’s name that tried to put forth the math on a non-ID origin of life? I remember that he had to figure in (what he openly admitted) were incredibly generous, even comical, assumptions into his calculations. If I remember correctly, he ended up concluding that actual physical reality would require an infinite multiverse just to get the needle to move. All this, coming from a recognized expert in computational biology; a committed materialist who is regularly invited to peer-review OoL papers submitted for publication into the scientific literature, not to mention being some big-shot lead investigator at some prominent research organization. I can’t remember his name, but it sounded something like “Eugene Koonin”, or something like that. I wonder if any of the ID critics have ever followed up on that? I wonder if those kinds of calculations actually mean anything to materialists?
Обсуждение здесь.
Американский биолог Евгений Кунин
И, собственно, слова самого Е.Кунина по поводу текущего состояния в области натуралистических моделей происхождения жизни:
Despite many interesting results to its credit, when judged by the straightforward criterion of reaching (or even approaching) the ultimate goal, the origin of life field is a failure - we still do not have even a plausible coherent model, let alone a validated scenario, for the emergence of life on Earth. Certainly, this is due not to a lack of experimental and theoretical effort, but to the extraordinary intrinsic difficulty and complexity of the problem. A succession of exceedingly unlikely steps is essential for the origin of life, from the synthesis and accumulation of nucleotides to the origin of translation; through the multiplication of probabilities, these make the final outcome seem almost like a miracle.' [Подчёркивание моё -- mns2012].
Источник:
- Koonin E. V. 2007. The cosmological model of eternal inflation and the transition from chance to biological evolution in the history of life. Biology Direct 2:15 doi:10.1186/1745-6150-2-15. Available at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1892545/
- Комментарий шёпотом в сторону: А сколько мне с 2012 г., когда я стал интересоваться всем этим хозяйством, пришлось перевидать интернет-экспертов, лучше не вспоминать ©.