Call for an International Panel on Migration and Asylum

Jun 27, 2018 14:38


Call for an International Panel on Migration and Asylum to guide European policies and global migration governanceThis text seems to me entirely adequate. It addresses real long-term issues, it does not give easy solutions, it calls just for opening one's eyes and seeing that there is a problem that cannot be addressed on a short-term basis. One ( Read more... )

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gomberg June 27 2018, 14:04:03 UTC
The panel shall, I presume, be convened at Evian?

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bgmt June 27 2018, 17:28:30 UTC
Why? I do not understand the reason for this, I presume, sardonic remark.

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gomberg June 27 2018, 19:46:24 UTC
You are not the target of my sad attempt at wit. It is, mostly, just a reflection of my general despair.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Évian_Conference

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bgmt June 27 2018, 20:16:21 UTC
Yes, I know about the Evian conference. But I see no similarity. Solving the migration problem is an essential need (whether understood or not) of today's powers. Solving the Jewish problem was not at all considered as something essential. No one would believe then what would happen to Jews, and no one would believe that this would become THE issue after the war ( ... )

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chaource June 27 2018, 22:49:14 UTC
I found the text duplicitous. There is "urgency" now, but there was no urgency 2 years ago when more than a million migrants arrived? I can only see one explanation: it is only now that political opposition to open borders has actually materialized in a number of European countries, and people have voted for anti-immigration parties and governments. So, I can only explain the main thrust of this text by assuming that the author of the text is of the opinion that closed-borders policy is "confused" or "ideologically driven", while open-borders policy is what is needed. To the author, the "migrant crisis" seems to consist not in the arrival of millions of immigrants from countries with sharply incompatible cultures, but in the partial closing of the borders that some countries are now about to put into effect. The author alludes to people who are against immigration as "confused" or "ideologically driven"; and apparently we need a "solution" that will be supra-national because the national governments are too "confused". Some global ( ... )

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prosto_vitjok June 28 2018, 09:31:04 UTC
As for the asylum agenda in Germany, politics is currently stuck in a blind alley. Any constructive discussion on migration has been overlayed by power retention plots and schemes between government factions, and the political output is rather & at best a homeopathic dilution of people's political will (should the latter exist as such). Recall that the Merkel's CDU got 26.8% of the secondary votes at the election to the Bundestag, and the eternal CDU/CSU union, which is about to fall apart now, got 32.9% only, many of those votes being desperate no-alternative / incompetent out-of-habit decisions. It took them half a year to build a "government", an inept patchwork of groups involved in ferocious internal battles. In this situation, an international panel of subject matter experts should really be given a try.

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chaource June 28 2018, 15:44:39 UTC
German people should decide their own future, - as should the people of all other countries. Political struggle is normal and healthy, as it is within the German system and according to the shared understanding of how the balance of power should be regulated. "It may be a bad system, but it's better than all others." On the other hand, an international group of unaccountable and unelected Euro-bureaucrats, who masquerade as "experts" and are perfectly insulated from the consequences of their decisions, is a known recipe for disaster. To call such an international group "stakeholders", as does the author of the text, is revealing of the real agenda of these people - to seize more power without accountability. European citizens are waking up to this now.

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prosto_vitjok June 28 2018, 17:25:08 UTC
You know, there is no empirical evidence to substantiate the assertion that one system be better than another in the very concrete task to resolve this particular asylum crisis. The efficiency of the present governments in face of the current situation is low, in the meantime those guys who came 2014 to Germany aged 16 are now aged 20, that's it, and what our German democracy has delivered during that time is nothing else than "short-term and inadequate political solutions", to take the formulation of the posting above. Political struggle of the governing elites is nothing about maximazing the functional of the public wellbeing, their accountability is more a wish and desire than reality. This German government does not work, democracy or not. How long should one accept their erratic ad-hoc actions for the only reason it is formally a democracy whatever this means nowadays? Besides this, a founded solution to this refugee issue cannot be elaborated on the level of individual nations, it is about broad region matters.

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