Aggravation on High

[betamantis]

I really find it distressing how terrible the "English" is that anglophones speak and/or write.

Everywhere I go, I am surrounded by errors - and only so many can be blamed on typos and not an utter lack of command and/or understanding of the system. I saw one person spell moving with an E, and splinter with two Es and two Is, on World of Warcraft

Comments

[alexmcdougall]

I'm not sure I could disagree more with anything you've said.

First of all.

You're confusing intelligence with ignorance. Not knowing a word's spelling or meaning isn't due to a lack of brainpower, but education. There's nothing more pretentious than getting pissed at people for grammatical or spelling errors; the way I see it, if you can understand what they're trying to say, they've succeeded in communicating. The rest is just etiquette and form. In the end, it's really inconsequential.

Second.

How can you preach about responsibility when you openly claim that you don't care about what's going on in the news? Reporters may be biased or incorrect sometimes, it's true, but that's no excuse for feeding your OWN ignorance. And how can you berate their compassion while stating that you've divorced yourself from the issue entirely?

I believe you ought to lighten up, think about what ACTUALLY matters, and then take a look at yourself. Then we can talk about who ought to be held responsible for what.

[liveshawn]

Thanks, man. My sentiments exactly.

I wanted to pipe up but these discussions with BJ usually tend to go around and around in circles. He's a stubborn lad that way.

Still, eloquence and intelligence aren't one and the same. Some of the brightest folks I know aren't quite as skilled when it comes to grammar or correct spelling. And vice versa. It's but one example of knowledge or skill - and both of those concepts are very dynamic.

On another note, I've noticed as of late that BJ has been fixating quite a bit on these 'failings' or 'quirks' of others - to the point where it almost seems obsessive. (I mention this because he complains about it often, through various mediums - such as LJ and the RR.)

Realistically, when one seems so utterly bothered by the differences in others, I take notice. If it were me, I'd be questioning why it bugs me so much - how it affects me as a person to such a degree that I feel compelled to gawk at the 'stupidity' of these persons over and over again - and in front of an audience, to boot

[betamantis]

Of course, what you do has no bearing on our discussions as only I control it and you have no say about whether they go on in circles. Evidently, only I may be stubborn. Notice this is merely pointing out the lack of you stating you have any responsibility in this - I do not believe it.

It bugs me for one simple reason: Why the hell do people not want to be right?

While I cannot argue with the idea of your last sentence, I do argue that I am not dissecting faults of others. I am merely questioning as to why people don't care about these things. I fail to understand it like you fail to understand my willful spurning of news.

[liveshawn]

Sure, I take on a certain level of responsibility here. How could I not?

But my suspicions (which were proven accurate from where I stand) are based on dozens upon dozens of conversations you and I have had in the past - and a similar number of arguments I've seen you have with others.

It's very rare that I see you interact with someone wherein you're actually listening to them. It's more than merely hearing the words, what I am referring to

[betamantis]

There was one point I read/watched news. And saying reporters have blackened hearts is what we call an exaggeration. Some reporters do their job, some are kind people. This applies in any profession, anywhere. However, the fact that reporters' existences are based upon rating which are dependent on how much they hound people who could be doing their jobs and saving people is hardly positive.

I admit openly (redundancy!) that I stay away from things news-related, again, because there is no point to watching it except to know what everyone else will be jabbering about.

I do not defend my beliefs because they are my beliefs. I defend my beliefs because they seem to make sense. And if they don't make sense, they are discarded.

Finally, your defeatist attitude is as disappointing as it is expected.

[betamantis]

*glances up at previous post* Did I even use the word intelligence in there? I used semiintelligent once

[alexmcdougall]

Okay, you win. You've convinced me you're beyond help.

Good luck, bud.

[betamantis]

Arguments are not contests one wins, they are lessons in which who is the teacher and who is the pupil is part of the lesson.

[liveshawn]

And to me, it seems you're convinced that you ought to be the teacher.

[betamantis]

*shrugs* Until I am taught or teach, I am neither.

[alexmcdougall]

That's a cute saying.