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May 31, 2007 14:53

You ever wonder if it's better to say that you support the soldiers, but not the war or the army? Or the army, but not the war and soldiers? What exactly are the exact semantics?

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auroracita May 31 2007, 20:08:35 UTC
What. Little. Fuckers.

Now, what do we do?

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bdar May 31 2007, 20:27:07 UTC
What we asked the Majority Cowardice Party to do in 2006--get the troops the hell out of there. Not only because they shouldn't be trapped over there in Iraq, but that increasingly the Iraqis shouldn't be trapped over there with them...the morale and discipline is only going to break down further as more war-traumatized twenty year-olds go blood simple.

As for us...I don't know. M-A is right in that we can't get anybody with the capacity to influence policy to listen to simple human reason. Armed insurrection seems the only effective option, but it could also probably be a point of no return for the nation.

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auroracita May 31 2007, 20:46:18 UTC
Gear up, me hearties, yo ho.

This nation was founded as a place of the people. It is no longer that. It is a place for the rich to rule those they deem to be less than them. It is a place where the poor breed like rabbits while the middle class can't afford to because they're paying for the children of the poor. It is a place where an idiot can be president if he's rich enough, the middle class is disappearing, and 85% of Americans can disapprove of a president and a war and STILL be the minority.

Governments should fear their people. Terrorism is not the answer. A full out coup may be.

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zentiger June 1 2007, 15:05:55 UTC
It is a place where the poor breed like rabbits while the middle class can't afford to because they're paying for the children of the poor. It is a place where an idiot can be president if he's rich enough, the middle class is disappearing, and 85% of Americans can disapprove of a president and a war and STILL be the minority.

Wait, what?

Governments should fear their people. Terrorism is not the answer. A full out coup may be.

Don't put your trust in revolution. They call it that because it just keeps coming around and dropping you in the cacky.

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auroracita June 1 2007, 21:18:38 UTC
Wait, what?The very beginning of the movie "Idiocracy" outlines this well. There's a shot of two well-to-do looking people with IQs above them that read into the 140/150 range. They are saying, "We can't afford to have a child with the current market." Flash to two hicks, combined IQ above them: 80. They are suddenly surrounded with a whackload of kidlettes ( ... )

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benchilada May 31 2007, 21:13:16 UTC
Regrettably, armed insurrection would only end badly for us.
The other side has more guns and knows how to use them better than we do.

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city_of_dis May 31 2007, 23:57:59 UTC
That assumes that the whole of the military is on their side. At this point, I think we could win them over with a simple "Fight for us and you can be in a bar in Michigan, getting sloshed and partying within the month."

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benchilada June 1 2007, 02:12:02 UTC
I'm just thinking all the Non-Military I Lurve Jeebus creeps...

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city_of_dis June 1 2007, 04:34:08 UTC
Easily brainwashed. If Falwell could do it...

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rick_day June 1 2007, 04:03:07 UTC
One word:

Viet Cong

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city_of_dis May 31 2007, 23:56:30 UTC
Agreed. I've been afraid to say it in such plain words, but...Yeah. That. Perhaps history will tell of how we teamed up with all the gun-toting hicks and won our goddamn country back. Here's a toast of moonshine to that.

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fornikate June 1 2007, 16:54:52 UTC
Keep calling us hicks and we'll shoot you first. :)

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