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May 31, 2007 14:53

You ever wonder if it's better to say that you support the soldiers, but not the war or the army? Or the army, but not the war and soldiers? What exactly are the exact semantics?

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city_of_dis May 31 2007, 20:05:28 UTC
There's a part of me that says, "Shit, we need to hit the streets - bitching and finger-pointing online won't stop this," but another part of me says "How many protests were you a part of over the last 6 or so years? What good did any of them do? What good was done by all of Sheehan's protets? It all falls on deaf ears."

Obviously, the Dems we elected in November have no testes, either. What, then?

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benchilada May 31 2007, 21:17:32 UTC
Dude, it's been five months.
Give them a bit more time.
It's hard to be the ones thrown into the cage with the bear.

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city_of_dis May 31 2007, 23:54:39 UTC
True, true. They've got until I'm in the voting booth to restore my confidence in them, but...that's going to take a lot and I'm SO ready to consider third options at this point.

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theweaselking June 1 2007, 01:58:00 UTC
There are no third options. There are only Democrats and Republicans. Your entire electoral system is built around the premise that only two parties can exist, and a third party can *only* be either irrelevant, or a spoiiler causing the party closest to it's own views to lose.

You're not a fascist. Vote Democrat, or your vote goes to a Republican by default. Period. Think the system sucks? It does. The American electoral system was backwards and obsolete a century ago - now it's completely archaic. Good luck changing it, though, since in order to do so within the system you need one of the two parties to win a vast majority *and then* cripple the machinery that allowed them to win their vast majority, guaranteeing a loss of power in the next election.

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city_of_dis June 1 2007, 04:48:46 UTC
Eh, I generally agree with you, but the truth is that the only reason that we can't get a third party in there is that we're all afraid of losing our vote. If we could all agree to vote for a third party, they could win it. I know, it's a long shot and trust me - I won't go voting third party if it looks like it's just going to botch things - but I would prefer to see if we can make it work before I commit to another "I hate this prick, but I'll vote for him anyway" dem situation.

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benchilada May 31 2007, 21:22:28 UTC
The RETARDED bear.

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