This is the really short version.

[bellatrys]

It may get longer and full of ObRefs and anecdotes like the outline of it is in my head. But at least it's down on digital paper and up for argument, unlike my attempt to address this exact same blogosphere event the first time it happened starting on the exact same blog which got to be pages and pages of incoherent free association and then got

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[sajia]

I've been meaning for a while to write a post on my unrequited blog-crush on Roz Kaveney - such a moving writer on religious homophobia and on radfemme transphobia, such a blockhead on understanding the diversity of the Muslim female experience; she was willing to overlook Moore's Sinophobia in LOEG as "ironic", and wilfully misunderstood Edward Said's position in Orientalism.

IRONY - UR DOIN IT WRONG

[bellatrys]

...if your "ironic" revisioning is *indistinguishable* from the unironically-bigoted original, it's pretty safe to say. There will always be incidents of exception, since irony like satire and other forms of verbal play is experienced subjectively and *extremely* context-dependent, but generally speaking people *ought* to be able to tell when you're just "doing the voices", so to speak.

--I also need a "This is not rocket science, people!" icon.

Re: This is not rocket science, people!

[nenya_kanadka]

Ooh, stealing the third one, will credit.

Re: IRONY - UR DOIN IT WRONG

[violaswamp]

Well, there ARE people without any ability to detect irony whatsoever, the sort of people who would read Jonathan Swift and say "How atrocious--this guy favors eating babies!"

But then, that falls under your final point. Not everyone will understand and/or like your work.

Re: IRONY - UR DOIN IT WRONG

[fridgepunk]

How's this one?