The Unbearable Lightness of Serious Literature

Jan 12, 2009 06:11

A while back I subbed to the Powell's Review A Day Newsletter, which sometimes tells me about books I'd be interested in reading, though more often does not. But sometimes the commentary in the reviews - which seem to be chosen from a fairly small pool, by a sorting algorithm I cannot fathom - is itself of interest. Which is not always a good thing ( Read more... )

culture, economics, paul theroux, serious literature, racism, politics, imperialism

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ann_leckie January 12 2009, 13:01:00 UTC
The fact that neither Jack nor Theroux address the role of race and racism, when speaking of American poverty (or not speaking of European poverty), is telling

Very, very telling. It seems to me, in fact, that Theroux is assuming you'll (the reader, that is) understand that race is behind what he's saying. The only reason India's poor are less scary than East St. Louis' is that Theroux would be a white man in East St. Louis. And black people, you know, are scary. Not like regular people, you know. I know plenty of folks here in the St. Louis area who are afraid of going within St. Louis city limits, let alone downtown, who consider the idea of being in East St. Louis (not just driving quickly through on the way to Chicago or whatever) unthinkably dangerous. In fact, it was one of the more disgusting aspects of that Jonathan Franzen novel set in Alternate-St. Louis you posted about a while ago, that the ending involved the main character's wife getting lost in East St. Louis, and of course she was in horrible danger from the ( ... )

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Huh, Theroux's a Yank, too-- bellatrys January 13 2009, 00:55:36 UTC
tho' a literary expat one. That makes it even worse, imo - no clueless Britisher dependent on US media stereotypes excuse for him.

It seems to me, in fact, that Theroux is assuming you'll (the reader, that is) understand that race is behind what he's saying.

Yeah, there's enough disingenuous there all around to choke a camel, I barely scraped the surface let alone dug down, being in a rush and seriously undercaffeinated.

The only reason India's poor are less scary than East St. Louis' is that Theroux would be a white man in East St. Louis. And black people, you know, are scary. Not like regular people, you know.

Which, you know, isn't that long ago (and might still be, for actual old-fashioned John Bulls abroad) the way that a white dude in his place would have felt the same way about Injah and all those Furrin Parts. Narcissism & Irony go tripping hand in hand...

In fact, it was one of the more disgusting aspects of that Jonathan Franzen novel set in Alternate-St. Louis you posted about a while ago, that the ending involved ( ... )

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Re: Huh, Theroux's a Yank, too-- ann_leckie January 13 2009, 01:15:23 UTC
Research is apparently as anathema to them as empathy...

And Franzen's from here, too. He went to high school where I work. He probably did do some research, but he also, probably, thought that his explicit choice of an "alternate" St. Louis absolved him of the responsibility to get everything right. Yes, I know, you're laughing. This mindset, it is foreign to our people.

And whatever research he did, he likely already "knew" that East St. Louis is scary and dangerous, so why research it any further? Of course when the character finds herself there, the only people she meets are thugs and prostitutes who mock her or threaten her. Everyone knows that's what East St. Louis is like!

Bleah.

Of course I can't help but think of lines unseen, and certain monocultural humans blundering through boundaries they don't even realize exist, creating a most terrible tangle behind them, all with "the best of intentions"...

Dang, no Atevi smiley!

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that reminds me of the rich people here bellatrys January 13 2009, 12:16:56 UTC
from the neighboring exurbs, some a mere two miles away, who are afraid to drive into West Manchester because of the scary ethnic populations.

I'm not sure if they're more afraid of the black immigrants, the Latino immigrants, or the Greek-Polish-French Canadian ones, though, since they've ALWAYS been scared of West Manchester as a "wretched hive of scum and villainy" even when it was 98% white, which, you know, is really sad and pathetic if it weren't so offensive. ("Manch-Vegas" is an ironic nickname, because, well, kind of the polar opposite.) It's amazing how insular and sheltered people can be in their "own" communities and lacking no advantage of time or money.

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But wouldn't it make it more "alternative"... deiseach January 13 2009, 18:22:59 UTC
... if he had his heroine wandering into the 'posh' part of St. Louis (I imagine there is such an area?) and *then* she met the thugs and prostitutes etc.?

I mean, if he's using an area that's supposedly poor and crime-ridden, what's alternative about that?

Ah, sorry: story logic rearing its head again. I forgot that this is Serious Litterachoor and so doesn't require this type of grubby detail-mongering that genre types expect from their AUs.

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Re: But wouldn't it make it more "alternative"... bellatrys January 14 2009, 00:39:52 UTC
Yup, it goes with why bother researching e.g. Vilnius when you can mock and slander a Generic Former East Bloc European nation as a wretched hive of scum 'n' villainy that is drawn from (and thus pleasantly fits/validates) every smug Usonian stereotype of Former East Bloc European nations? *Some* people might think that actual pros and cons of current Baltic states would be more gritty and artistic both, but Srs Lit types aren't *nerds*, they're more interested in Big Pictures which somehow look exactly like reflections of the insides of their own little heads, unaffected by all that strange inchoate reality passing them by...

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