So let's just imagine for the sake of argument

Jul 18, 2008 06:44

...that a small bunch of fans got together and put together their own fanfic archive - it has been known to happen, now and again - volunteering their time and using a donation model to pay for bandwidth and server space and it gets a number of submissions and a bit of a name among all the other fanfic archives out there, but it's not a household ( Read more... )

stupidity, helix mess, bigotry, fandom, privilege, irrelevance of legality

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ann_leckie July 18 2008, 12:25:02 UTC
That knocking sound you've been hearing is me.

Me repeatedly banging my head on my desk. For a while there it seemed like each morning brought a newly frustrating and insane development.

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I just find it so unfair - and so *exemplary* of the Wall of Silence problem bellatrys July 18 2008, 13:55:11 UTC
to have people saying "but Sanders has always been like this, if you were on the old Helix boards before he deleted them or if you were at the Nebulas in aught whenever etc etc you would have seen LOTS of this behavior" - well, yah, and if Dr. Asaro had hung out on liberal humour blogs like World o Crap then Theodore Beale probably wouldn't have been invited to judge the Nebulas either - we don't all belong to the same groups, and if insiders don't talk then how are the rest of us supposed to know? I will cut slack to those intimidated or afraid of further harrassment, but so much of this reminds me of so many institutional sex scandals in recent years...

I mean, I don't have anything publishable, since I have only completed fanfics and political Allegories and humorous satires, but if I had, I wouldn't have known not to submit to Helix either, before this past week.

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Re: I just find it so unfair - and so *exemplary* of the Wall of Silence problem jonquil July 18 2008, 14:06:24 UTC
Theodore Beale probably wouldn't have been invited to judge the Nebulas either

OMGWTF?!??!!?!??!??!

Wow.

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Re: I just find it so unfair - and so *exemplary* of the Wall of Silence problem fledgist July 18 2008, 17:26:31 UTC
I'm missing something here, I think.

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aka Vox Day bellatrys July 18 2008, 21:06:49 UTC
and sundry sockpuppets, or else clone troopers, of his. Maybe you weren't reading Making Light then? He went off on how women couldn't write (or do) Hard Science in the most absurd and preposterous way, and then flipped out over how he was the Victim Of Political Correctness when his claims that Women Were The Root Of All Evil and our vote should be taken away were derided, along with his failure to mention that his *journalistic* credentials were somehwat overstated, and (more ad hom than logical, but it does kind of go with his macho persona) his mohawk wearing flaming-sword waving author pic. (He claimed, perhaps honestly, that he hadn't done the flame-photoshopping himself, but he certainly permitted the photo to be used on the website.)

It was kind of like watching the Coyote vs the Roadrunner, in terms of the combo of brainless perseverance and inflated opinion of own cleverness...

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Re: aka Vox Day jonquil July 18 2008, 22:49:19 UTC
I had never known why he had the specific hate-on for Dr. Asaro other than that she is a living disproof of his theories.

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Re: aka Vox Day fledgist July 18 2008, 23:45:46 UTC
Ah. I see. I wasn't reading ML at that time. I've heard tell of him, and all I can say is that some lifts do not make it all the way to the top floor.

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