Gor-blimey.

Jul 29, 2007 14:50

I didn't notice this at first, but in the details of the publication info on Amazon is the niggling little fact that Witlness of Gor is a staggering 717 pages (as well as hardcover.)

By way of comparison, Great Expectations is only 448 pages in the Penguin edition and Hugo's Bellringer only 510. This is literally half as large as War & Peace, Read more... )

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therealsherbs July 29 2007, 19:20:54 UTC
War and Piece?

I'm sorry . . my inner pedant is showing :)

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NP! we're all members of Nitpickers Anonymous here! bellatrys July 29 2007, 19:23:27 UTC
For some reason I get tripped up by the homophones more when I type sober. (When I type sloshed or tipsy it's just right-hand/left-hand typos.)

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Nitpickers Anonymous, heh buggery July 29 2007, 20:15:22 UTC
On that note,

Norman's Imaginitive Sex - also published in 1974
Imaginative

until I read in the foreward that it had been bowdlerized
foreword

(If it makes you feel any better, I not only mixed up Malay with Malayalam earlier today, but misspelled it as Malayam. I don't even have the homonym excuse to fall back on!)

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Re: Nitpickers Anonymous, heh therealsherbs July 29 2007, 22:35:30 UTC
damn! and I missed those :)

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The Gor-fest continues? buggery July 29 2007, 20:24:50 UTC
Witlness of Gor
Ahahahahahahaha, that's beautiful.

You know, I hadn't been planning to ever read any of Fleming's books... but thanks for pointing out such an excellent reason to avoid them, and that one in particular. "Pug-like"?!

(Count the dehumanizing catchwords!)
I really hope that was a rhetorical device. I mean, I *see* them, but I don't want to waste the really quite nice lunch thete1 made today, and I think I might were I to actually tally them all up...

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Re: The Gor-fest continues? bellatrys July 29 2007, 23:44:29 UTC
Ahahahahahahaha, that's beautiful.

Not mine, I'm afraid - it evolved on the comments threads somewhere, I'm not sure who's responsible at this point b/c it's just irresistible!

You know, I hadn't been planning to ever read any of Fleming's books... but thanks for pointing out such an excellent reason to avoid them, and that one in particular. "Pug-like"?!

Oh yah. And *dialect*. --Lots of, ahem, dialect.

I really hope that was a rhetorical device.

Oh indeed. No drinking games neither, due to acute alcohol poisoning. That's the reason I haven't been able yet to make myself trash this book - I'd have to type it all in, since the pages are too poor quality to OCR well [cough*unless someone can supply me with a torrented version*cough] and my blood pressure starts going up as I try to pick out passages to input.

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lonesomepioneer July 29 2007, 21:26:28 UTC
Oh, God, Quo Vadis, my horrible, horrible guilty pleasure from sixth grade. In my defense, I was a thoroughly brainwashed little fundamentalist Christian at the time, and the conjunction of Holy Christian Martyrdom and Freaky Kinky Slavefic was completely irresistible: I could get turned on and feel self-righteous about it! My favorite was the subplot with Eunice and Petronius Arbiter, though even I found it lame when she killed herself in his dying arms rather than inherit all his estates and fortunes and everything. I mean, if you must fall in love with your decadent hedonist objectifying Roman master, at least reap the benefits when he kills himself to avoid being executed for sedition, right? Even the whores in that book were self-sacrificing little virgins in the end. :P

There could have been more hot boy slaves, too. All the male slaves were either freakish simpleton man-mountain Lenny-from-Of Mice and Men, or evil traitorous little old men, or some such. Come on, scenes illustrating terrible sinful Roman decadence, give ( ... )

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that's the right icon, too! bellatrys July 29 2007, 23:48:07 UTC
Holy Christian Martyrdom and Freaky Kinky Slavefic was completely irresistible:

For an awful lot of Americans, for a very long time!

Even the whores in that book were self-sacrificing little virgins in the end. :P

Ayup!

There could have been more hot boy slaves, too.

Double yup! The old Sword & Sandal flicks were okay with the lesbianism = awesome! Ebol!, but not TEH GAY (at least not overtly). Nothing to do with the manstream target audience, of course.

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Re: that's the right icon, too! fledgist July 30 2007, 00:18:40 UTC
As, ahem, Gore Vidal has pointed out there's gay subtext intentionally put into Ben Hur, though the VERY MANLY Charlton Heston, whose gun is big, insists otherwise.

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Re: that's the right icon, too! rozasharn July 31 2007, 07:45:35 UTC
According to 'The Celluloid Closet', everybody knew at the time that Charlton Heston wouldn't stand for any such goings-on. So when whoever-it-was came up with the idea to have the two male characters be former lovers, the director said "Heston would never agree" and the actor playing the other guy said, "I'll do it. I'll render all the nuances in my acting, and we just won't tell him." ---Or words to that effect; I saw it once years ago.

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violaswamp July 29 2007, 23:07:17 UTC
FYI--there's actually a Gor parody named Witless of Gor. The trouble is, it's under flock, but you might be able to get added--it's on the parody journal of Mina de Malfois, at mina-de-malfois.livejournal.com or minions-de-mina.livejournal.com

It's a parody of Gor that switches the premise so it's blondes who are natural slaves to brunettes.

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violaswamp July 29 2007, 23:19:22 UTC
It's not personal info or anything, just a parody journal and the author doesn't object to letting just about anyone see it. So you could probably get added or I could post it in the comments of a flocked entry, if you'd like to make one.

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fledgist July 31 2007, 21:04:31 UTC
I'm with you there, I didn't pick up on the kinkiness in Quo Vadis when I read it at 14 or 15.

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