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A Purely Selfish Reason For Not Wanting DH To Promote Gor...

Jul 25, 2007 13:45

tammy212 has a post on the ethical issues of promoting the Gorean worldview in which she points out that there are not just self-interested reasons as we women worry about encouraging a worldview that depicts us as "natural slaves", but that (shades of Kant) the Gorean mindset, as an exaggerated, valorized version of run-of-the-mill traditional patriarchy ( Read more... )

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ronin_kakuhito July 25 2007, 19:00:52 UTC

"If it's on another planet, then they could so fly to Dune and tame the Bene Gesserit!"

Heh, whoever the first Emperor was radioactive parking-lotted Gor.

ronin_kakuhito July 25 2007, 19:01:47 UTC

*sigh* left out an adjective

radioactive glass parking-lotted Gor.

smurasaki July 25 2007, 19:05:19 UTC

That's probably the most merciful solution.

Mac

ronin_kakuhito July 25 2007, 19:08:55 UTC

Well that, and the Empire only needs so many hell worlds

ronin_kakuhito July 25 2007, 21:10:03 UTC

"If it's on another planet, then they could so fly to Dune and tame the Bene Gesserit!"

I can completely see the Gorfolk trying that, and thinking, for centuries after, that they'd succeeded.

-Mark

sporfle! bellatrys July 25 2007, 23:06:39 UTC

There are lots of badass galactic civilizations with which we can amusingly-juxtapose the Goreans: Warriors of Gor vs. the Peacekeepers, Warriors of Gor vs. the Zentraedi, Warriors of Gor vs. the Goa'uld, Warriors of Gor vs. the Shadows, all matches for the amusement and gambling activity of the Ancients (whichever Ancients you like...)

Re: sporfle! ronin_kakuhito July 26 2007, 02:32:24 UTC

I haven't watched much Farscape, but of the others, the only ones I can see the Gorians having any hope of lasting beyond the first hours of the conflict are the Goa'uld and the Zentraedi, and in both cases only because the opposition forces are terminally stupid. Oh see, when I DQ 1, that leaves only one race left to kill them all in great balls of explodey goodness... your list looked longer before I started writing. And if I recall, the Gou'uld have a tendency to turn their opponents' cities into glass parking lots if they get too annoying.

Re: sporfle! nenya_kanadka July 26 2007, 04:12:08 UTC

Well, one benefit of the Goa'uld taking over the Gor folks brains with their symbiotes--at least the slaves' dress sense would improve markedly. Not to mention the manly-men would acquire kohl eyeliner. A win all 'round!

Re: sporfle! ronin_kakuhito July 26 2007, 04:18:03 UTC

Tarl Cabot, Fashion Slave

Re: sporfle! darkrosetiger July 31 2007, 10:10:30 UTC

I want to see the Warriors of Gor vs. the Hive Queens:

Tarl: Blahblah women are natural slaves blah blah...

Wraith Queen: *looks at SGA-1*

Sheppard: *shrugs*

Tarl: ...and women in Gor are truly fulfilling their destinies blah blah...

Wraith Queen: Bored now. Talk to the hand.

Sheppard: *looks around...what Wraith?*

Ronon: *whistles*

Teyla: *shoves Tarl a little closer to the Queen, just to be helpful*

Re: sporfle! nenya_kanadka July 31 2007, 23:00:59 UTC

Wraith: *eats Tarl* *keels over from toxicity*

Re: sporfle! lyorn July 26 2007, 13:04:30 UTC

the only ones I can see the Gorians having any hope of lasting beyond the first hours of the conflict

The first crossover that came to my mind was with Spinrad's "The Iron Dream". Must be those Gay Bejeweled Biker Nazis. Now that would be a case where "rocks fall, everyone dies" would be the happiest of happy ends, but before that one could throw a lot of popcorn.

Though "Gor" might well be one of the inspirations for "Iron Dream".

Re: sporfle! lyorn July 26 2007, 12:59:03 UTC

That sounds like a lot more fun than the dated "USS Enterprise vs. Star Destroyer" debate.

Re: sporfle! jonquil July 26 2007, 15:12:20 UTC

Oh, god, Aeryn Sun on Gor. They'd never know what had hit them. She'd blow away half of the males on the grounds of terminal idiocy and improving the gene pool. Then the other half would beg to be enslaved by her leather, at which point she'd blow them away for being annoying. (And getting drool on her pants.)

Let's play "The Taming of the Gorean" violaswamp July 26 2007, 17:08:32 UTC

-Galadriel on Gor

-Eowyn on Gor

-Haleth on Gor

-Luthien on Gor

-Draupadi on Gor

-Daenerys Targaryen on Gor

-Asha Greyjoy on Gor

-Catelyn Stark on Gor

-Veronica Mars on Gor

-Det. Kima from The Wire on Gor

-Granny Weatherwax on Gor

Come to think of it, where are all the Gorean mothers and old women? What happens when slave-girls grow old? Where are the crones and the dowagers that are usually given some respectful lip-service even in patriarchy?

Re: Let's play "The Taming of the Gorean" anna_wing July 27 2007, 14:27:51 UTC

Mary Poppins on Gor

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