Okay, Let's Just Take a Moment Here

Mar 17, 2009 14:18

It's just a movie.Please stop using this phrase to dismiss my or other people's opinions. My opinions are based on what I perceived as an insult, something that bothered me and moved me to cry out against it. "It" being the film, fanfic or random asstwat comment of the week ( Read more... )

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moeshas March 17 2009, 16:49:12 UTC
I totally agree with you here. I hate it when people say that. It's great to be passionate about something, anything, even if it's 'just a book/movie'. :o)

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 17:05:20 UTC
Yeah ♥
When they say that it's like they're pooping on my passion. :(
I've been seeing it so much lately (though it's definitely nothing recent), and I absolutely had to rant about it.

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aredblush March 17 2009, 18:06:54 UTC
*stands up*
I agree with this so much, you don't even know. Thank you for speaking your mind and giving voice to my thoughts.

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 20:11:30 UTC
*stands up with you and puts arm around shoulder*
You're welcome ♥

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polysamachan March 17 2009, 18:32:09 UTC
I totally understand what you're saying. I may disagree with the amount of misogyny found in some works, or the importance of it, but it's always bad class to put down someone's passions. :( It never does anything but hurt someone for the ~great sin~ of having an opinion.

What work are you talking about, by the way? I'm curious.

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 20:36:16 UTC
We should all follow the flock and not have opinions of our own. :P

Well, it was a "last straw" kinda thing that prompted the rant. In the last couple of weeks, the two last straws being,

one, stupidfree people came to one of my communities (a tight-knit community and where people know each other a some time now) and started leaving wank comments. Afterwards some of them started to join my community and we were still talking about how those comments/drama had hurt/angered us (at the time we had thought it was our own members and not trolls, until someone researched the commenters) and one person went "just get over yourselves, it's just the internet".
=_=

and two, someone talking about Watchmen and feminism and being told "it's just a movie". I wasn't in agreement with what that person was saying, but I really didn't like that someone just dismissed her opinion out of hand like that.

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polysamachan March 17 2009, 21:23:58 UTC
There's a big difference between politely disagreeing and engaging in a conversation and actively putting down someone's beliefs. One should be encouraged (heck yeaaah, intelligent discourse) and the other is reprehensible. :(

I'll admit that I watch all the wankish comms religiously (sf, sf_d, otf_wank, fandom_wank...yeah, all), but I never get involved. (My rule on the internet is look but don't touch.) :/ I'm sorry that they broke comm rules and did that. It's easy to just say 'it's the internet', but emotions are emotions. They shouldn't be dismissed.

I just recently read Watchmen (I put up a terrific fight) and was very disturbed by the rape apologist undertones in one of the plot lines. I can see someone getting upset and I've never seen the movie. (Graphic depictions of murder and rape are really not my thing. Plus I wouldn't be able to look at Dr. Manhattan w/o thinking SMURF PORN.)

That whole debacle with David Hayter's comment on Sally recently just proved that it really wasn't 'just' a movie. Sigh.

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 23:08:40 UTC
I love fandom_wank (I might love it a bit too much and I was all sad when they moved over to journalfen. Debunking sockpuppet wank is on of my favorite things ever.), but I don't go over to the original post and start breaking stuff.

SMURF PORN
Omg, ahahah *laughs head off* Now I'll be thinking of little sumrfs when I see the movie ahaha.

There's a big difference between politely disagreeing and engaging in a conversation and actively putting down someone's beliefs
Exactly. :D

the rape apologist undertones
yeah that bothered me too.

I just googled the David Hayter open letter. Wow, this stuff always explodes to such epic portions. *rummages through thousands of links*

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shortsweetsoul March 17 2009, 19:51:12 UTC
*applauds*

I agree with this so much! I don't often take creative works seriously, but I understand that many people do, and that their interpretations and opinions should never be minimized.

♥♥♥

You're kinda ultimate, lady. :)

May I ask what brought this on?

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 20:38:25 UTC
You're kinda ultimate, lady.
*blushes*

that their interpretations and opinions should never be minimized.
Exactly *grin*

*is lazy and copies and pastes from above*
Well, it was a "last straw" kinda thing that prompted the rant. In the last couple of weeks, the two last straws being,

one, stupidfree people came to one of my communities (a tight-knit community and where people know each other a some time now) and started leaving wank comments. Afterwards some of them started to join my community and we were still talking about how those comments/drama had hurt/angered us (at the time we had thought it was our own members and not trolls, until someone researched the commenters) and one person went "just get over yourselves, it's just the internet".
=_=

and two, someone talking about Watchmen and feminism and being told "it's just a movie". I wasn't in agreement with what that person was saying, but I really didn't like that someone just dismissed her opinion out of hand like that.

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shortsweetsoul March 17 2009, 22:45:12 UTC
1 - WOW. That is douchebaggery to the nth degree. :( Okay, and "it's just the internet"? The person who's a total jerk on the internet is probably/definitely a jerk in real life. Quite distressing.

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 23:10:31 UTC
*brings out perfect icon*

Yep to all accounts. We were all a bit pissed off.

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yoongz March 17 2009, 22:45:23 UTC
i always take it that when they say "it's just..." - it usually means my opinion stands on better grounds than theirs - as they have nothing more to say besides "it's just..."
so take heart - they are pulling at straws.

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belenustenebrae March 17 2009, 23:12:21 UTC
*hugs* thanks ^_^

Objectively, I know it, but on the moment, when I see the comment, I can't help but let out a little 'ARGH'.

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