Comments | belenen: on nonstandard pronouns such as bun/bunself or fae/faeself and transphobia

belenen

on nonstandard pronouns such as bun/bunself or fae/faeself and transphobia

Feb 02, 2015 23:17

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volamonster asked me to give detailed thoughts and feelings on a person requiring others to use pronouns for them such as bun/bunself, fae/faeself, and other uncommon choicesMy initial reaction to learning of these pronouns was that they allow ( Read more... )

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slinkslowdown February 3 2015, 10:16:19 UTC

they may take trans people's pronouns less seriously in a good way

I couldn't agree more.

I'd be open to using a non-standard pronoun, but I just haven't come across any that feel "right" to me.

belenen April 15 2015, 22:12:31 UTC

hm, I hadn't even thought of using a non-standard pronoun for myself. I like that idea, I'll let it marinate.

secret_keep February 4 2015, 05:42:28 UTC

I remember awhile ago, at a burn, talking to Issa:
Issa and Josh were talking about specifics and preferences and how do you introduce yourself in an inclusive way?
And the things they thought were definitely good were name and pronoun.

belenen April 15 2015, 22:12:50 UTC

raidingparty February 4 2015, 21:45:24 UTC

This might be a benefit of privilege, but I don't have a preferred set of pronouns. I haven't "tried on" anything other than he/him/his, but when I imagine she, or zir, or faeself, I don't find any of those bothersome. Maybe in the delivery, if someone was deliberately trying to be insulting ("it"), although I'm more likely to roll with it if the insulter is implying femaleness because it undermines their edge ( ... )

belenen April 15 2015, 22:15:50 UTC

the problem with "pick any pronoun you want" is that it makes it a little harder for others to assert their pronouns. It shifts the mood of the room away from self-identification to other-people-labeling-you. I used to do this, so I understand the impulse, but it doesn't have a positive effect. If you feel neutral about it, I would say the neutral choice is neutral pronouns (they or ze etc).

raidingparty April 16 2015, 16:22:54 UTC

See, I thought there would be good reasons not to, but I couldn't quite identify it. And in popular culture at large, less-accommodating people could point at me and say, "He's not being difficult, so why are you?" (Since they would also probably default to calling me "he".)

In other news, http://emorywheel.com/gender-neutral-pronouns-necessary-for-inclusivity/

Adding "personal pronouns" to my to-do list.