Yes, I thought inserting Martha like that was pretty creepy too. And their moment of sexual tension in the Tardis at the end.
However, this doctor is, I think, all about the God Complex. He's the last of his kind, and as you say he tries to pull off the grief and angst of Nine, but just can't quite manage it. And I'm starting to think that might be deliberate, because this Doctor, the last lord of time, he's getting pretty big for his boots now. He could , I think, very easily tip over into believing he is a God, with all the privilidges thereof.
(And this I think is a very important part of why for the first time ever, he went and fell in love with a companion. I think it was a conscious or sub-conscious defence mechanism, to keep him in touch with his, for want of a better word, humanity.)
And this, I think, partly explains his desperation to fill that hole with a new companion ASAP.
Yes, I thought inserting Martha like that was pretty creepy too. And their moment of sexual tension in the Tardis at the end.
Hooray, I am not alone!
However, this doctor is, I think, all about the God Complex. He's the last of his kind, and as you say he tries to pull off the grief and angst of Nine, but just can't quite manage it. And I'm starting to think that might be deliberate, because this Doctor, the last lord of time, he's getting pretty big for his boots now. He could , I think, very easily tip over into believing he is a God, with all the privilidges thereof.
Wow, that's a great way to put it. I very much agree and think it could be a wonderfully compelling story arc if I wasn't convinced they were going to ignore it even in the subtext. Because I was convinced that after Queen Victoria's words last season, he and Rose were going to get their comeuppance for being so arrogant and...well...no.
(And this I think is a very important part of why for the first time ever, he went and fell in love with a companion. I
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It wasn't as creepy as the Doctors attempts to get the Runaway Bride to go with him in the Christmas Special though, I mean, I got the feeling he wasn't too far off deploying the old chloroform at the end there.
And yes, queen victoria.
However, you see. My Doctor = God theory started aroundabout the episode set in the School with Sarah Jane. And I just have a feeling that Billeh announcing her departure... I think that came mid-writing point, and they rejigged things to give her a departure, so I have a feeling that a lot of the stories they started to set up at the beginning of S2, the hubris you mention, the god complex, I think those got bumped in order to do the doomed love story in a hurry.
Because he is oh so very arrogant Ten. Also, Matt (blankbadge) and I are increasingly convinced that he has a really huge crack habit.
And yes, I quite liked Martha too. Which was a relief. I was quite ready to hate her.
wanna bet?? the daleks were wiped from time - they now never existed - yet they still managed to come back several times. the timelords were also wiped from time - wanna bet?? ok, so some bastard at work blurted out something which would tend to support my claim, although i have reason to think that if RTD tries this, he'll be pulling it out of his big fat arse, even more than he normally does.
He could , I think, very easily tip over into believing he is a God, with all the privilidges thereof.
wasnt there an episode of old!who that dealt with the doctors final, insane, EVIL! final incarnation? alternatively, theres the mythical character the gallifreyans know from their deep past as "the other"...
HAHA! No, definitely not! I agree that suddenly having more gallifreyans show up is something that might well happen in the show. But I think the point stands, because he at least THINKS he's the last of his kind...
wasnt there an episode of old!who that dealt with the doctors final, insane, EVIL! final incarnation?
Sort of - I think the Valeyard was actually all of the Doctor's bad impulses and desires between his twelfth and thirteenth incarnations and that he agreed to put Colin Baker's doctor on trial because if he won and the Doctor was convicted, he'd get the rest of his regenerations and finally become "a real boy". I think. Someone more knowledgable than me will probably put me right in a minute... ;)
Well, in the Doctor Who storybook, there is a snippet from RTD, so I assume it is canon, where he talks about how there is a monument on a distant moon, that the Doctor erected to his people as the last of the Timelords, and apparently somebody scrawled upon it 'You are not the last'.
It might have been in a short story, I forget exactly. But the published stories are considered canon?
And there are several candidates I think for timelords who might have survived. Romana, the Master, whatserface the other evil one whose name I can't remember. I would be surprised if at least a few of them don't re-appear at some point.
According to BBC policy only media which are free to licence fee payers are allowed to be considered canon for the tv programme. Which must save the writers a LOT of headaches. :-)
whatserface the other evil one whose name I can't remember
The Rani. There were several other renegade but not necessarily evil Time Lords in old Who and any of them could've used their TARDISes to survive in a similar way to how the Daleks used their void ship.
I think there were some references in books I didn't read but Wikipedia has a Doctor Who project run by some very knowledgeable and enthusiastic volunteers so the articles on Doctor Who there are surprisingly accurate:
However, this doctor is, I think, all about the God Complex. He's the last of his kind, and as you say he tries to pull off the grief and angst of Nine, but just can't quite manage it. And I'm starting to think that might be deliberate, because this Doctor, the last lord of time, he's getting pretty big for his boots now. He could , I think, very easily tip over into believing he is a God, with all the privilidges thereof.
(And this I think is a very important part of why for the first time ever, he went and fell in love with a companion. I think it was a conscious or sub-conscious defence mechanism, to keep him in touch with his, for want of a better word, humanity.)
And this, I think, partly explains his desperation to fill that hole with a new companion ASAP.
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Hooray, I am not alone!
However, this doctor is, I think, all about the God Complex. He's the last of his kind, and as you say he tries to pull off the grief and angst of Nine, but just can't quite manage it. And I'm starting to think that might be deliberate, because this Doctor, the last lord of time, he's getting pretty big for his boots now. He could , I think, very easily tip over into believing he is a God, with all the privilidges thereof.
Wow, that's a great way to put it. I very much agree and think it could be a wonderfully compelling story arc if I wasn't convinced they were going to ignore it even in the subtext. Because I was convinced that after Queen Victoria's words last season, he and Rose were going to get their comeuppance for being so arrogant and...well...no.
(And this I think is a very important part of why for the first time ever, he went and fell in love with a companion. I ( ... )
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Ditto. :-(
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And yes, queen victoria.
However, you see. My Doctor = God theory started aroundabout the episode set in the School with Sarah Jane. And I just have a feeling that Billeh announcing her departure... I think that came mid-writing point, and they rejigged things to give her a departure, so I have a feeling that a lot of the stories they started to set up at the beginning of S2, the hubris you mention, the god complex, I think those got bumped in order to do the doomed love story in a hurry.
Because he is oh so very arrogant Ten. Also, Matt (blankbadge) and I are increasingly convinced that he has a really huge crack habit.
And yes, I quite liked Martha too. Which was a relief. I was quite ready to hate her.
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wanna bet??
the daleks were wiped from time - they now never existed - yet they still managed to come back several times.
the timelords were also wiped from time - wanna bet??
ok, so some bastard at work blurted out something which would tend to support my claim, although i have reason to think that if RTD tries this, he'll be pulling it out of his big fat arse, even more than he normally does.
He could , I think, very easily tip over into believing he is a God, with all the privilidges thereof.
wasnt there an episode of old!who that dealt with the doctors final, insane, EVIL! final incarnation?
alternatively, theres the mythical character the gallifreyans know from their deep past as "the other"...
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HAHA! No, definitely not! I agree that suddenly having more gallifreyans show up is something that might well happen in the show. But I think the point stands, because he at least THINKS he's the last of his kind...
wasnt there an episode of old!who that dealt with the doctors final, insane, EVIL! final incarnation?
Sort of - I think the Valeyard was actually all of the Doctor's bad impulses and desires between his twelfth and thirteenth incarnations and that he agreed to put Colin Baker's doctor on trial because if he won and the Doctor was convicted, he'd get the rest of his regenerations and finally become "a real boy". I think. Someone more knowledgable than me will probably put me right in a minute... ;)
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Well, in the Doctor Who storybook, there is a snippet from RTD, so I assume it is canon, where he talks about how there is a monument on a distant moon, that the Doctor erected to his people as the last of the Timelords, and apparently somebody scrawled upon it 'You are not the last'.
It might have been in a short story, I forget exactly. But the published stories are considered canon?
And there are several candidates I think for timelords who might have survived. Romana, the Master, whatserface the other evil one whose name I can't remember. I would be surprised if at least a few of them don't re-appear at some point.
The Other? Tell me more?
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According to BBC policy only media which are free to licence fee payers are allowed to be considered canon for the tv programme. Which must save the writers a LOT of headaches. :-)
whatserface the other evil one whose name I can't remember
The Rani. There were several other renegade but not necessarily evil Time Lords in old Who and any of them could've used their TARDISes to survive in a similar way to how the Daleks used their void ship.
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Have they ever, out of curiosity, told the story of the Time War and the destruction of the Timelords anywhere?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_War_%28Doctor_Who%29
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